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DB4
05-24-2010, 06:36 PM
I just thought it would be a good idea to start a thread about poker. I am not a good poker player by any means. If anybody has any tips or suggestions related to anything about poker or any of the in game scenarios please feel free to share.

I am fully aware of the elegant suit and have acquired it but i just haven't used it yet.

dinsdale1978
05-25-2010, 08:41 AM
Alot of the lower tables bet on Ace high. If you pair up in the hole, you can probably slow raise them into a big pot. Once you have a chip advantage you can easily bully them out of cihps until they have nothing left. I haven't tried anything past Armadillo but I generally clear the tables every night.

Let me know if you want some other poker advice.

DB4
05-25-2010, 09:43 AM
One thing that i would definitely like to know is if it is possible to spot a cheater in action or to be able to read the NPCs expressions to get a feel if they arre bluffing, etc. I know that the game will let you observe the table. I would like to think that there is a reason for it.

dinsdale1978
05-25-2010, 10:24 AM
One thing that i would definitely like to know is if it is possible to spot a cheater in action or to be able to read the NPCs expressions to get a feel if they arre bluffing, etc. I know that the game will let you observe the table. I would like to think that there is a reason for it.

Sometimes they show some facial tics but the real point of looking at them, I think, is when you can cheat when you are dealing. Once you get that fancy suit you need to check them out before dealing from the bottom of the deck.

Spike Forehand
05-26-2010, 05:57 PM
I play a ton of poker online, in home games, and in casinos and hold my own pretty good.

The AI in this game is very "weak tight"- meaning it does not raise enough and folds too much - and can easily be beaten every time. The only way you should lose is getting cold-decked (i.e. very strong hand beaten by another stronger hand - like QQQAA losing to AAAQQ when you have QQ and he holds AQ and the board comes AAQxx)

The antes never go up and are very low compared to your starting chip stack so all you have to do is just wait for good cards - play only hands with two face cards, pairs, or suited connectors (i.e. 87 of spades). Bet if you hit and fold if you don't. Have the discipline to fold if you don't have anything. You can bluff players off hands, but if they call they have something and you should avoid putting any more money into the pot. It's OK to draw at hands if the price is cheap, but make sure that you and your opponent still have a fair amount of chips so that you get paid off if you hit.

Straightforward ABC poker will easily win against this AI.

dinsdale1978
05-27-2010, 06:14 AM
I play a ton of poker online, in home games, and in casinos and hold my own pretty good.

The AI in this game is very "weak tight"- meaning it does not raise enough and folds too much - and can easily be beaten every time. The only way you should lose is getting cold-decked (i.e. very strong hand beaten by another stronger hand - like QQQAA losing to AAAQQ when you have QQ and he holds AQ and the board comes AAQxx)

The antes never go up and are very low compared to your starting chip stack so all you have to do is just wait for good cards - play only hands with two face cards, pairs, or suited connectors (i.e. 87 of spades). Bet if you hit and fold if you don't. Have the discipline to fold if you don't have anything. You can bluff players off hands, but if they call they have something and you should avoid putting any more money into the pot. It's OK to draw at hands if the price is cheap, but make sure that you and your opponent still have a fair amount of chips so that you get paid off if you hit.

Straightforward ABC poker will easily win against this AI.

Well put and quite true.

SlapLaB
07-26-2010, 03:26 PM
It's OK to draw at hands if the price is cheap

What is "drawing at hands"?

I've been playing poker in Blackwater and kept loosing...
What happens usually is that 2 players bust out, and I'm left with one guy but he has lots of chips and I don't.

I must do something wrong - will follow Spike's advice and try again...

theczech99
07-27-2010, 02:34 PM
What I did when playing poker at a table having more than 1 AI player.

I would intentionally get caught cheating. Duel and kill the person that caught me cheating. Go right back to the table which now has one less player. Do this until itís just you and one other person. This way you only have to beat one instead of three.

SlapLaB
07-27-2010, 02:38 PM
What I did when playing poker at a table having more than 1 AI player.

I would intentionally get caught cheating. Duel and kill the person that caught me cheating. Go right back to the table which now has one less player. Do this until itís just you and one other person. This way you only have to beat one instead of three.

he he he that's a good plan...

well, you have to be good at duelling though ;)

theczech99
07-27-2010, 02:51 PM
well, you have to be good at duelling though ;)

Just make sure you paint your X on their head and youíll win every time. Head shots will fill you meter faster than body shots. You can also shot the gun out of their hand but itís easier to go for the head shot.

Spike Forehand
08-19-2010, 10:21 PM
It's OK to draw at hands if the price is cheap

What is "drawing at hands"?

I've been playing poker in Blackwater and kept loosing...
What happens usually is that 2 players bust out, and I'm left with one guy but he has lots of chips and I don't.

I must do something wrong - will follow Spike's advice and try again...


Sorry for taking so long on the response Slap.

Drawing at hands means betting or calling a bet when you don't currently have the best hand, but have a good chance to improve.

Most common example is an open-ended straight draw - like 4567, where you have 8 "outs" or cards that will make your straight.

For the math geeks, you are about a 2 to 1 underdog to make this hand with two cards to come (i.e. after the flop but before the turn), and a 4-1 underdog to make the hand if you only have one card (the river) to come. In other words, if it is $100 to call a bet after the flop and you have an open=ended straight draw, then the pot must have $200 or more to make the call "worth it".

Other examples could be a flush draw ( you have four cards to a flush and need one more), where you have 9 outs (similar odds to straight draw), or when you have two "overcards" (example - flop is T-6-3 and you have A-Q and are pretty sure one of your opponents has at least a pair lower than your Q, so you would have 6 "outs" (three A's and three Q's).

A general rule of thumb for calculating odds is to multiply the number of outs by 4 with two cards to come, or two with one card to come. This gives you your persentage chance to win. SO - for the flush draw with 9 outs and two cards to come, you have 36% chance to win vs. 74% chance to lose (2 to 1), or about 18% chance to win (just over 4 - 1) with one card to come.

The very best poker players will add further odds based on what percentage chance their opponent is bluffing, and subtract some if their draw may not be the best draw (like a K-high flush draw vs. a A high flush draw).

They also may re-raise with a draw, which is known as a semi-bluff. It can win two ways - by causing the opponent to fold immediately, or by improving by hitting your draw.

As to your problem when losing heads up, you need to loosen up some when you are heads up since you are only against one other hand. If you are always short-stacked when you get heads up, then it means that you are not betting enough with your winning hands. You need to be knocking out players along the way.

Anyone wants more good poker education, I can recommend some books. Poker is a life-long addiction for me.

SlapLaB
08-22-2010, 01:37 AM
Wow thanks for the answer :-bd

I like the rule of thumb to calculate odds!
I don't play poker that often, but as a stats geek I always liked it. Let's see if I can put that in practice.

As for RDR, I did manage to do it in the end by having one person at the table. And I didn't even have to duel anyone :cheers:

Jackie R
08-25-2010, 06:52 PM
If anyone is still having trouble clearing the table, I found out a neat little trick:

First - Make sure that you are wearing the outfit that allows you to cheat and save your game...just in case it doesn't work in your favor.

Second - If there is more than one player, do the dueling trick czech mentioned until only one is left at the table.

Third - Go all in. Chances are, he will fold the first time but call you when you do it again. If you're lucky enough to have the higher hand, he busts out and you are done.