View Full Version : My new hobby / money pit

10-29-2012, 08:33 AM
K so I had that thread a while ago that showed my motorcycle. I sold that and bought this instead. Ive ALWAYS wanted a car. Kinda like my dream come true. I dont have the funds to just do EVERYTHING I WANT to do right now so Im going to drive, tinker, drive, tinker then eventually REDO. My plan is to start with the interior and get that updated. Then move onto suspension. Then Drivetrain. Then body off overhaul. FYI, I paid $13k for the car and didnt see it before I paid for it. Lesson learned.

Here it is as it sat at the sellers house in May.

Specs are as follows -
396 60 over 9.6:1
roller hydraulic valvetrain
Ported and Balanced and Blueprinted
Keith Black Pistons
Edlebrock Performer RPM 8.5cfm
Edlebrock Pro 2.0 intake
Accel Performance Distributor
Accel Hi Temp Spiral Core Plug Wires
Headman ceramic coated headers
Flowmaster 50 series Dual 3" mufflers
MSD Igintion system
Holley Performance Fuel System
Camaro Power Steering System
Hurst Shifter
4" Cowl Fiberglass hood with locking pins

Doug Nash Ent. hybridized Super T10 close ratio
Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch
12 Bolt real axle
Clutch type posi w/3.31 gears
Custom Driveshaft

Hotchkis Rear 4 Link with Drag Bags
All new bushings, seals, lines throughout
All new brakes, Discs in front, Drum in rear

And then the fun begins -
So I started doing things to my car recently. Here's some pics of the bullshit Im going to have to fix someday. I order some vinyl for the dash and a-pillars. And started tearing plastics off to paint them. Just picking away, here and there.

Why is there a camaro wheel on my column?

What once was blue and then was black is now blue again with a little degreaser

10-29-2012, 08:34 AM
(A few weeks ago) And now for the WTF moment of the day - I was taking some friends for a ride when I noticed it was unusally hot in the car. So I reached down to the floor to feel HOT air coming through the carpet seam. Like blow dryer hot. So I pulled the carpet up a couple days later to find this hack job (less the silicone and marine epoxy). The "patch panel" had pulled all of the self tappers out and was letting HOT air come up through. So I bought bigger self tappers, some marine grade epoxy, and a tube of trusty silicone and made a semi permanent (at least until it happens again or I can afford the body off resto) fix to it. Now no more heat! Make no mistake - I KNOW THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT but it is the way to do it RIGHT NOW. This will be fixed the right away at a later date.


Derpacolor the license plate bracket - it was a rusty piece but I sand blasted, rust inhibited, then duplicolored it.

Whats behind the glove box? A bunch of old nasty firewall insulation and some wires for whatever the fuck -

And now Im going to start painting things on the inside. I already did those blue kick panels black with SEM (shit is awesome). I've decided to paint the metal parts Ultra Silver Metallic and keep the rest of the black stuff black. Im going to cover the dash and A pillars in Whisper Vinyl black. Eventually, I'll do custom door panels with silver suede inserts (probably this winter as Id like to complete a custom center console at the same time).

Needs cleared yet -

Pic is dark but I reinstalled the kicks - I'll get better pics when its light out

And this last weekend -
Doing more things on the car -

Remember those blue kick panels from above?

Painted Cluster carrier - did not smooth. Too many broken mounting tabs to want to put work into the panel other than paint. Its black but the sun makes it look lighter.

10-29-2012, 08:35 AM
Got the metal part of the dash painted Ultra Silver Metallic. Just need wifey to stitch up the leather dash pad cover and start reassembling.

Also started polishing the dash trim piece. I highly recommend the Dremel polishing kit for these smaller pieces. YOu can see in the pic the part that is polished and the part I havent hit yet.

This was around 8/8/12
I sanded and polished the lens for the gauge panel

After and mounted into freshly painted carrier

Covered the a-pillars in Whisper Vinyl

And mounted license plate

10-29-2012, 08:36 AM
Shown is stitched dash pad installed (I had a pro cover it since I have no idea what Im doing), gauge bezel painted, metal dash part painted silver along with column, A-pillars covered on soft touch vinyl (really nice shit), kick panels redyed black, vents painted black, tach reloacted from top center of dash.


I have also installed a new heater core. That required removing the passenger side inner fender well. Which required cutting because of rust issues. So I also replaced both inner fender wells. I dont have those pictures taken off of my camera yet tho.

10-29-2012, 08:51 AM
Beautiful car and a fun project! My dream is to do the same thing with a 1967 GT 500.

http://mustang1.net/data/media/6/1967%20GT%20500%20Shelby%20Mustang%201%20(1)%20(1) .jpg

10-30-2012, 08:58 AM
Whoa that is a lot of work mate! Looks like a beauty though.

11-02-2012, 10:23 AM
That is awsome. I have a money pit of my own that I'm going to start work on this winter. Mine is a 1976 Trans Am, it was my highschool car that I sold right after graduation and just got it back this summer.
Please keep posting pictures, I love to see the progress

11-05-2012, 12:46 PM
Yup will do. Ive got to get it to its winter time resting place then starting stripping door panels as I think Im going to be doing those winter. But for now here is a pic of me and my youngest -


11-05-2012, 04:41 PM
Yup will do. Ive got to get it to its winter time resting place then starting stripping door panels as I think Im going to be doing those winter. But for now here is a pic of me and my youngest -


First off I'll say looks great and I can appreciate it after all the work I have put into my 1970 CJ-5...I need to do a few thins now that I slapped on a quick ratio steering box and headers...and by no means do I need mine to look so pretty. Now time to stir the pot...

I agree with HC its worth the time and effort for the Stang but you and Jack should really just put the GM stuff back in the ground where it came from...or at least recycle so I can get some new fenders for my CJ!

HAHAHAHAHAAAA I am just messing with you guys...I am the proud inheritent of a 2000 vette but was certainly raised with Ford and Mopar as the "desireable" cars. keep it up guys maybe we can do an MP burn-out day next summer!!

11-06-2012, 10:54 AM
This car is only pretty on the outside in pictures. If you get close, you can see the paint was put on by an amateur. The frame is solid though so that makes me happy. My overall goal for this car is a pro tour set up. Im going to get the suspension situated this winter by converting to coil overs and adjustable lower control arms in the rear and coil overs with full tubular a-arms in the front and all new bushings throughout. Hopefully that will cure some of the issues Im having right now with wheel hop and bump steer.

01-09-2013, 02:11 PM
Hey folks. I just ordered a slew of parts for the ride. Only a couple frilley pieces that you will actually see. Most of them are functional parts. The list is as follows -

New 140amp Alternator. The current 63amp isnt powerful enough to run the car when I mash the pedal.
New core support. Current one is rusted out.
New polyurethane front suspension bushings.
New polyurethane body mount bushings.
New 2" lowering spindles with all new bearings.
2" Rear lowering springs.
4 new sealed beam conversion headlights with relay harness. I will be converting the low beams to HiDs with projectors for more BRIGHT.
New steering wheel.

Time to get work I guess.

01-09-2013, 02:18 PM
sounds fun!

01-09-2013, 02:19 PM
I got a new money pit as well before Christmas :( Magic cards...

01-09-2013, 03:15 PM
I got a new money pit as well before Christmas :( Magic cards...

How are cards a money pit?

Do they keep disappearing?

01-09-2013, 03:22 PM
No dammit, but they keep coming out with new ones...
I must have plundered about 300$ into that since the week before christmas ;)

01-09-2013, 04:18 PM
No dammit, but they keep coming out with new ones...
I must have plundered about 300$ into that since the week before christmas ;)

Crap you sound like me with Video games and Little people for the kid. I think I got 7 new PS3 games and just got Adam the little people bat cave because WallyWorld's way of getting rid of stock is 50% off. So a $35 toy for $17, how can you pass that up. And batman when he is in the bat-mobile says "To the Batcave!"

01-09-2013, 04:37 PM
Quit jackin up my thread with talk about Magic cards and kids stuff..............

just kiddin..........

01-09-2013, 05:09 PM
I got a new money pit as well before Christmas :( Magic cards...

You mean these?


And not this?


Hence the cheesy joke about your cards magically disappearing, I just got it now. You mean Magic The Gathering cards.

@SmokeyCheese1 Sorry, just wanted to clarify.

01-09-2013, 05:59 PM
Lol good thing u did. I didnt get it:P

09-13-2013, 02:19 PM
Figured I should update this thread - cuz it does consume a lot of time. Driving and wrenching of course.

So I strayed from my original path of just replacing the core support and cleaning up the front suspension with some powder coat and new bushings. Whilst I did replace the core support, I also replaced the A-Arms and springs in the front.

4/15/13 - Stuff removed from drivers side. Gonna clean up that frame and paint before putting new chit on.

Gross old stuff on the ground. It was at this point I decided to buy all new stuffs.

Rats nest behind the firewall. This is how it came to me. Its the horn relay (life of the car apparently) and the voltage regulator. 2 things that are curious about the factory build/wiring. 1.) The horn relay needs constant 12v power. Without it the car has absolutely 0 power. None. Cant even turn it over. 2.) All of the passenger side wires run in front of the core support on the outside of the car. I believe all of the wires were run and the connectors put on after that. Because I could not pull them back through - the connectors were too big. I had to cut 5 wires and put them back to together as a semi temporary fix.

4/19/13 - Grille, headlights,header panel, ect removed

Still 4/19/13 - Errythang off. Reassembly can begin.

09-13-2013, 02:20 PM
4/30/13 - New A-Arms with Energy Suspension Bushings and Proforged ball joints with Hotchikis 2" drop springs. Im impressed the sway bar link are roto-joints. Not bad for cheap a-arms.

Still 4/30/13 - Caliper bracket - steering linkage shot

5/4/13 - Painted new core support to install.

Dem wires hangin

Some poly body bushings to show. Yes theyre on the whole car and not just right here.

Brackets and header panel reinstalled

Filler panel and headlights reinstalled. Used all new headlight bucket hardware and springs. Decided against installing retrofit projectors at this time because I just wanted to get the car on the road. Will install later - requires cutting headlight buckets and core support. So I just put in H4 highs (replaces T3s) and installed new relay harness. OEM wiring sends all headlight power through the headlight switch - makes for dim lights. Relays are the way.

09-13-2013, 02:21 PM
5/5/13 - Forgot to take some pics along the way. So in this pic I have the fender wells reinstalled (painted silver), core support bracket reinstalled, and dirty stuff reinstalled. You can also see new CS130 Alternator. It bothers me to no end to put old stuff back on, but, this isnt an unlimited budget build. So I make due. I couldve cleaned some things up I suppose but I was in a damn hurry.

5/5/13 - Had old Edelbrock Q-Jet 850cfm carb on there. I bought this 770cfm Holley Street Avenger to use instead. Holy off idle hesitation batman. Took some research and some parts but it is tuned up and makes way more power than the Q-Jet did.

But I learned a lot about the Holley carb. Most people said the lean condition I was experiencing (popping out of the exhaust, off idle hesitation) was caused by vac leak or improperly set accelerator pump. So this gave a place to start. I removed the accel pump diaphragm and checked the primary squirter size. Everything seemed to be good there. I reinstalled those parts and set up a slightly more aggressive pump cam with a longer squirt duration. Still hesitated pretty bad but I could push through it and the car would move. So I bought a vac gauge and set the idle mixture screws, then the curb idle screw, and made sure the float levels were correct and also dialed the fuel pressure up from 4 1/2 psi to 6psi. Still a mean hesitation. Finally I decided to look at the primary and secondary metering jets. 68 and 76 respectively - yup, car is lean. Bought new jets and started with 72/76 combo. That almost did the trick - still a slight hesitation under light throttle. Went up to 76/82 - BOOM! MONEY! Now just waiting on my AFR gauge to arrive to see where I sit.


And on Friday 5/17 - New Seats and Wheel installed. The wheel is a flimsy POS and I need to find a better one. I'll make due for now. The seats however, firm, good bolstering - not bad for $340 shipped. The biggest hit was buying the Planted seat brackets. $140 each. Theyre very nice brackets though.

And the lowered shots -

Forgot to remove SS plate. Oh well.

For the most part, everything went ok. Only one boly on the passenger side lower A-Arm had to be cut off. Mostly everything lined back up which is lucky considering the nature of aftermarket replacement sheet metal. I had one issue with the headlight wiring, it was a ground so easy fix. Then I mentioned the no power thing - that had me stumped. I initially thought the POs shitty wiring job was the culprit - there was a random blue wire tied to battery +. Turns out random blue is pretty important to the life of the car.


09-13-2013, 07:49 PM
This is fucking awesome, pardon my French.

11-05-2013, 05:30 PM
That is awesome, I wish I had the skill to do what you do. I just have to save up my money and have someone fix mine up.
Great job

11-06-2013, 11:18 AM
Looks great

04-30-2014, 02:22 PM
I forgot to come back and thank everyone! I got more things going on right now with it but wont post until Ive finished them up. I did however swap out the classic look American Racing 17s for some 18" Pro touring style wheels. Here is a pic of that -

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10171897_10151998969776689_7822543066496176085_n.j pg

More to follow!

11-19-2014, 02:23 PM
In the spring I installed new wheels. When from 17x7 and 17x8 to 18x9.5 all the way around. I also changed the styling to pro-touring.


I also removed the A/C condenser, installed some AC fans, moved the MSD box, and put in a new Optima battery. Cleaned it up quite nicely.
Old and gross
New and Clean

Pic of the efans installed

Ive been working on the interior too. Ive made a custom package tray, installed some suede sail panels, and began fabricating new interior panels for the back seat that will include switches and ambient LED lighting.

Pic of my custom pkg tray -
Mid process. Used 2 layers of 1/8" fiber board so I could do inserts.
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/399205_10151522017566689_396835549_n.jpg?oh=57efe0 54b56208e582bc3e30a5f10ace&oe=551543B4
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And a pick of my unfinished midprocess interior panels for the back seat. I molded in arm rest as opposed to screwing them on. This is fleece over a form and covered in fiberglass resin. Just need to get it upholstered now.
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1240607_10151625139316689_1907171651_n.jpg?oh=d0d1 04419de4152bb2c69528b07d067a&oe=5515EF1C

11-19-2014, 02:27 PM
Ive also been buying some parts. Im upgrading from stock front disc/rear drums to 13" CTS-V brakes front and rear. Here is the front 4 pot caliper - Made by Brembo.


I also bought a new dash insert. I need to fill it with gauges and install it.


11-19-2014, 02:35 PM
Looking great man. I love the new wheel choice...just seems to pop more. I'd be interested to see the interior when you get those panels and LEDs installed.

11-19-2014, 02:37 PM
Insert emoticon with a boner...

11-19-2014, 06:16 PM
Hey who wants a new money pit...1970 CJ5 with a buick odd fire V6 (Dauntless 225) just dropped 2k into it...new exhaust, new battery, new alternator, new brakes, alignment...I can go on.

SO let me know or if you know someone who is interested let me know that too...

03-12-2015, 11:54 AM
Is it spring time yet? Got goodies to install!


03-12-2015, 01:32 PM
Is it spring time yet? Got goodies to install!


Pop it up on the rack and slap them bad boys on! nothing says brake tests like a nice snow packed road.

03-17-2015, 08:44 AM
I need a rack first :(

I wish it was as easy as just slapping them on too. Need to pull rear axles and install those c-clip eliminators you see in the middle. And on the front I need to remove the disc brake spindle and install a drum hub/spindle.

03-17-2015, 08:49 AM
I need a rack first :(

I wish it was as easy as just slapping them on too. Need to pull rear axles and install those c-clip eliminators you see in the middle. And on the front I need to remove the disc brake spindle and install a drum hub/spindle.
ok...so you're saying clear the living room out and bring in some blocks or if you want to get all fancy a set of ramps...few hours and maybe a divorce later and BOOM it's playtime!

03-17-2015, 01:44 PM
ok...so you're saying clear the living room out and bring in some blocks or if you want to get all fancy a set of ramps...few hours and maybe a divorce later and BOOM it's playtime!

I................I LOVE the way you think.