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SouthtownSlayer
03-20-2013, 04:39 PM
Not really sure where to post this, did a search for Battlefield 4 and didn't come up with anything.....

Well, looks like you they have a website for BF4 (http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield-4) now, you can log in with your origin account and once logged in it gives you a basic update of what to expect. You also get a dog tag "I Was There" to use in BF3.

EPIC50CAL
03-20-2013, 05:46 PM
yea i cant wait for the 27th and hoping it comes out with the ps4.

Mutt
03-21-2013, 02:59 PM
Naval combat!

Prepare 4 Battle: Sea (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z4jxkkrrKM)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BF5si4gCMAIC9uC.png:large

theczech99
03-21-2013, 03:36 PM
Naval combat!

Prepare 4 Battle: Sea (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z4jxkkrrKM)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BF5si4gCMAIC9uC.png:large
One of the new 20sec video clips shows some type of ship/sub prop. Hopefully this makes it way to MP and is not just for SP.

Ullrsdog
03-21-2013, 03:39 PM
Naval combat!

Prepare 4 Battle: Sea (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z4jxkkrrKM)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BF5si4gCMAIC9uC.png:large

Oh great Southtown...playing with the little man in the boat... :laugh: sorry south I just had to say it.

SouthtownSlayer
03-21-2013, 04:43 PM
pfft...More like big man on the SHIP! asshole!!! hahaha


Oh great Southtown...playing with the little man in the boat... :laugh: sorry south I just had to say it.

RC-1136
03-22-2013, 07:35 AM
pfft...More like big man on the SHIP! asshole!!! hahaha

The picture actually is titled "Amphibious Landing" on the website. I don't think there will be any naval battles. I hope not anyway. That would be gayer than me and Southtown on a Dirtbike.

SouthtownSlayer
03-22-2013, 09:24 AM
The picture actually is titled "Amphibious Landing" on the website. I don't think there will be any naval battles. I hope not anyway. That would be gayer than me and Southtown on a Dirtbike.

Get it right...."That would be gayer than me (RC) motor boating Southtown's ass crack on a dirtbike"!! L1L1L1

RC-1136
03-22-2013, 09:58 AM
Get it right...."That would be gayer than me (RC) motor boating Southtown's ass crack on a dirtbike"!! L1L1L1

You're right. L1L1L1.

theczech99
03-22-2013, 11:24 AM
This is from Battlefield - it's called "Prepare 4 Battle: Sea"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z4jxkkrrKM

This is the Land video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaddKBTeo3k

sam007
03-22-2013, 04:49 PM
It should be tonnes of fun running with 32 Mp's! Be warned, 64 can get pretty stupid on certain maps. I'll assume players will find a way to make maps play that way.

EPIC50CAL
03-23-2013, 09:12 AM
did you guys know that on the bf4 website where it looks rainy you could wipe the screen and it will unveil a tank and a lav.

Spike Forehand
03-25-2013, 04:31 PM
Pretty good summary of all the rumors:

http://youtu.be/qc-dFZaPhaI

One of my favorites: return of (real) destruction!!!

Retro
03-27-2013, 12:27 AM
Announce Trailer!

http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield-4/videos/bf4-announce-trailer-with-rihanna

SouthtownSlayer
03-27-2013, 04:51 AM
Looks like you can preorder it for PS3/XBOX/PC now, can't wait until this game comes out!

theczech99
03-27-2013, 07:43 AM
17 min of footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8HVQXkeU8U

RC-1136
03-27-2013, 07:53 AM
17 min of footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8HVQXkeU8U

The graphics look amazing, but the game play looks exactly like any other Military FPS that I have ever played. I am more interested in the MP. It sucks that all Premium Members get access to the Beta. Makes me feel like a fool for getting MOH Warfighter now.

Borlaxx
03-27-2013, 08:40 AM
Looks good. I wonder what the difference will be between current gen consoles, pc, and next gen if it comes out on them.

Still, like RC said, looks a lot like just another modern fps. I'm sure it will be excellent if you are a BF fan, but the days of COD being the only yearly "cut and paste" fps seem to be over.

HardlyCapable13
03-27-2013, 09:21 AM
the days of COD being the only yearly "cut and paste" fps seem to be over.

Well not really, since BF3 was realeased in 2011.

I know what you're saying, as the single player will be the same old crap (I couldn't even bring myself to finish the BF3 campaign). But who buys BF for the single player? I'm looking forward to see how they're progressing the MP.

Retro
03-27-2013, 09:37 AM
Well not really, since BF3 was realeased in 2011.

I know what you're saying, as the single player will be the same old crap (I couldn't even bring myself to finish the BF3 campaign). But who buys BF for the single player? I'm looking forward to see how they're progressing the MP.

New engine again too. I'll have to find it but I also remember that the people at DICE had their other team start development of BF4 before BF3 even came out and that was one reason they cancelled a sequel to Mirror's Edge.

LandShark
03-27-2013, 10:08 AM
was I the only one, when the buildings were falling down thinking to myself, "please please have BC2 destruction!"

HardlyCapable13
03-27-2013, 10:10 AM
was I the only one, when the buildings were falling down thinking to myself, "please please have BC2 destruction!"

Nope, and I believe it's back.

Borlaxx
03-27-2013, 10:33 AM
I'm not saying it will be a bad game. It will likely be excellent. Even though I could never get into it (just preferences) BF3 was a very well made game, and I'm sure BF4 will be too and people who prefer BF over COD will likely love it.

However, it didn't seem worlds different from Bad Company 2 to me in terms of gameplay, and although BF3 came out in 2011, I don't see a ton of difference between Activision releasing Modern Warfare/Black Ops games on alternating years compared to Battlefield/Medal of Honor/Bad Company.

Yes, a new engine is more than what COD games are doing from entry to entry (God knows they need a new one), but if COD released their next game on a new engine, but kept the gameplay pretty much exactly the same the haters would still be saying "copy and paste." I'm sure some will disagree with me, but Treyarch did more with Black Ops 2 to alter multi-player and single-player than any COD game since the first Modern Warfare, yet it still wasn't enough of a change for many people (yet still sold insanely well).

With all that said, I really crave some innovation in gameplay in the FPS genre more than improved graphics. Great graphics will get my attention, but great gameplay is what keeps it.

sureMOE
03-27-2013, 11:01 AM
I will be rejoining the MP crew for BF4 only if it's next-gen hardware. I am going to wait to see what Microsoft has up their sleeve because I thought the PS4 launch was pretty underwhelming. But I have been pretty disappointed with the BF3 release. Server side problems, hardware that could barely keep up with the graphics (so much so that it took them forever to get the mics working), very little destructible environments, poor gimmicky map packs that were either too large or too small and disappeared from map rotations faster than someone could say 'Operation Metro?'. I am excited that the next gen systems will allow a closer return to the BF2 days on the PC where you could do matches of between 40 and 50 people. I just can't spend the money on this with the dated hardware. But I do hope to return, I miss playing with all of you and I miss my BF fixes. :(

Retro
03-27-2013, 11:11 AM
I would say the game play differences between BF games are pretty big, hell the changes from patch to patch are huge. CoD for the most part is cut and paste. That said, I've got 227 hours in BF3 since it's launch in 2011 and 100 hours in BlOps2 since November. I rarely play BF anymore, combination of not liking a lot of the changes from BC2 to BF3 and with BF3 you need a large group to play while CoD I can hop in and out of and play lone wolf if no one else is on.

BF3 is probably one of the most extraordinary games from a technical perspective, but to me it lacks that character and soul BC & BC2 had. If BF4 can somehow marry that technical proficiency with the character and soul of the BC games, I think it will be the perfect game (for me anyway).

Mutt
03-27-2013, 11:51 AM
But who buys BF for the single player?

Lots of people do.

HardlyCapable13
03-27-2013, 11:56 AM
Lots of people do.

Sorry. I wasn't aware.

Mutt
03-27-2013, 12:10 PM
It's probably a good time to have a new sub forum for BF4 instead of having a thread in BF3. Admins can you work your magic?

Spike Forehand
03-27-2013, 12:17 PM
Definitely will wait to buy on next gen console rather than for PS3. Hopefully they arrive about the same time.

Mutt
03-27-2013, 12:23 PM
Definitely will wait to buy on next gen console rather than for PS3. Hopefully they arrive about the same time.

Was this not next gen only?

theczech99
03-27-2013, 12:23 PM
My money is that they will be adding a female to one of the MP classes and I hope it is the recon class. This would add a new meaning to the phrase Presto Bitch!

Borlaxx
03-27-2013, 12:31 PM
Was this not next gen only?

No. They announced for pc, ps3 and 360. No word on next gen consoles yet. They also said it is not coming to Wii U.

theczech99
03-27-2013, 12:32 PM
This sucks for Wii U owners.


http://www.gamespot.com/news/no-battlefield-4-on-wii-u-6406035

Battlefield 4 (http://www.gamespot.com/battlefield-4/) will not release on Wii U, developer DICE has confirmed to Videogamer (http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/battlefield_4/news/battlefield_4_the_interview.html). Creative director Lars Gustavsson explained that bringing the game to Wii U would mean taking on a risk that he is not comfortable with.
http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/2013/84/BF41_03543_embed.jpg (http://asia.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/index.php?single=1&path=2013%2F84%2FBF41_03543_screen.jpg&blog=1)
"I think overall for me as creative director, number one is to deliver a really great game and experience. Sometimes, at least for us, it's focus on what you do well and what you know well, and ensure that you deliver something good than trying a bit too much, stretching yourself too thin and risking it," Gustavsson said. "I'd rather play it safe, deliver something really good and then look at the future and what could possibly be done than trying a bit too hard and then, flat."
During the Wii U unveiling at Nintendo's 2011 Electronic Entertainment Expo briefing, then-Electronic Arts CEO John Riccitiello said the publisher was exploring ways to bring the Battlefield series to Wii U (http://www.gamespot.com/news/e3-2011-wii-u-unveiled-at-nintendo-press-conference-skyward-sword-due-in-q4-6317471), though no projects ever came to light.
Battlefield 4 joins a growing list of games to skip the Wii U. Other big-name games that passed over the console include Saints Row IV (http://www.gamespot.com/news/no-saints-row-iv-on-wii-u-6405397), Far Cry 3 (http://www.gamespot.com/news/no-far-cry-3-on-wii-u-6396956), Resident Evil 6 (http://www.gamespot.com/news/resident-evil-6-not-planned-for-wii-u-6371155), Dead Space 3 (http://www.gamespot.com/news/no-dead-space-3-on-wii-u-6382682), and Crysis 3 (http://www.gamespot.com/news/crytek-explains-why-crysis-3-wii-u-had-to-die-6404763). Additionally, Fallout and Elder Scrolls publisher Bethesda has said it presently has no plans to support the Wii U (http://www.gamespot.com/news/bethesda-has-no-plans-for-wii-u-6394827).
Gustavsson also revealed that Battlefield 4 will not feature female playable characters in either single- or multiplayer.
"The geopolitics is more of a backdrop to what happens, it's more [about] you and your group, and we chose to pick a man for it," he said. "It seemed to suit the story."
He explained that there are "a million things" DICE would like to do with Battlefield 4, but at the end of the day, only so many things are possible.
"I have the deepest respect for the men and the women who choose to do military service. It's not that anyone is better or worse," Gustavsson said. "It's definitely a valid question that we asked ourselves."
Battlefield 4 launches this fall (http://www.gamespot.com/news/battlefield-4-confirmed-for-fall-2013-6406022) for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC, though it is rumored to be in the works for the PlayStation 4 and Microsoft's unannounced next-generation platform.

HardlyCapable13
03-27-2013, 12:33 PM
Was this not next gen only?

Good question. If it's both current and next, I'm definetly waiting for next gen.

Edit: thanks for the info Borlaxx

Spike Forehand
03-27-2013, 12:34 PM
My money is that they will be adding a female to one of the MP classes and I hope it is the recon class. This would add a new meaning to the phrase Presto Bitch!

Which MP is most likely to be found hiding behind a rock sniffing the crotch of a dead female wookie?

Not that there's any thing wrong with that.

Wel - actually there's a lot wrong with it.

Mutt
03-27-2013, 12:37 PM
My money is that they will be adding a female to one of the MP classes and I hope it is the recon class. This would add a new meaning to the phrase Presto Bitch!

Then you owe me money. Females won't be playable in MP.

HardlyCapable13
03-27-2013, 12:38 PM
My money is that they will be adding a female to one of the MP classes and I hope it is the recon class. This would add a new meaning to the phrase Presto Bitch!

That would definetly bring Meg back!

Mutt
03-27-2013, 12:38 PM
This sucks for Wii U owners.


http://www.gamespot.com/news/no-battlefield-4-on-wii-u-6406035

Bullshit excuse. We'll probably get BF3 with "enhancements".

Borlaxx
03-27-2013, 12:44 PM
This sucks for Wii U owners.

Do I wish there was a Wii U version for people who will want to play it and only will have that console? Yes.

Would I be playing it on Wii U compared to the PS4 I will hopefully get at the end of the year? No.

Did I buy my Wii U for BF4 or FPS games in general? No.

I bought my Wii U for first party exclusives and unique 3rd party games that take advantage of the gamepad, not multi-console ports.

TonkaToys
03-27-2013, 12:52 PM
It's probably a good time to have a new sub forum for BF4 instead of having a thread in BF3. Admins can you work your magic?

Your wish is my command - just don't abuse me, or maybe...

Mutt
03-27-2013, 12:54 PM
Do I wish there was a Wii U version for people who will want to play it and only will have that console? Yes.

Would I be playing it on Wii U compared to the PS4 I will hopefully get at the end of the year? No.

Did I buy my Wii U for BF4 or FPS games in general? No.

I bought my Wii U for first party exclusives and unique 3rd party games that take advantage of the gamepad, not multi-console ports.

Bought mine for Monster Hunter and first party games.

Mutt
03-27-2013, 12:55 PM
Your wish is my command - just don't abuse me, or maybe...

Wish I had had powers like that over my ex-wife!

HardlyCapable13
03-27-2013, 12:56 PM
Do I wish there was a Wii U version for people who will want to play it and only will have that console? Yes.

Would I be playing it on Wii U compared to the PS4 I will hopefully get at the end of the year? No.

Did I buy my Wii U for BF4 or FPS games in general? No.

I bought my Wii U for first party exclusives and unique 3rd party games that take advantage of the gamepad, not multi-console ports.

Understood. What this sucks for is the people out there who can only afford one system and wanted a system that would offer all these games.
I didn't realize WiiU was being skipped by so many devs. But then again, most people don't even know the system exists.

Retro
03-27-2013, 12:59 PM
Bullshit excuse. We'll probably get BF3 with "enhancements".

So you would rather they put together a half-assed port? Biggest part of all the bitching and whining from Wii owners was the second rate ports they got of 3rd party titles last gen. Now a dev say's they don't want to do that and people still complain? Knowing full well that if they released with no gamepad control support people would be pissed.

Mutt
03-27-2013, 01:08 PM
So you would rather they put together a half-assed port? Biggest part of all the bitching and whining from Wii owners was the second rate ports they got of 3rd party titles last gen. Now a dev say's they don't want to do that and people still complain? Knowing full well that if they released with no gamepad control support people would be pissed.

Funny how Ubi can have 1000 people working on Assassin's Creed 4. Is DICE that small that they can't get more man-power?

Mutt
03-27-2013, 01:09 PM
Understood. What this sucks for is the people out there who can only afford one system and wanted a system that would offer all these games.
I didn't realize WiiU was being skipped by so many devs. But then again, most people don't even know the system exists.

Agree with this. No advertising for the Wii U sure doesn't help. Oh well maybe they thought lightning strikes twice?

Retro
03-27-2013, 01:19 PM
Funny how Ubi can have 1000 people working on Assassin's Creed 4. Is DICE that small that they can't get more man-power?

UbiSoft is a publisher with a number of development teams around the world. DICE is a developer.

DICE = 323 employees
UbiSoft = 6927

HardlyCapable13
03-27-2013, 01:24 PM
Agree with this. No advertising for the Wii U sure doesn't help. Oh well maybe they thought lightning strikes twice?

Yup. I thought the WiiU was an upgrade for the Wii for the longest time. Just like I thought the 3DS was just a 3D model of the DS.

Nintedo advertising is beyond awful.

TheFreak75
03-27-2013, 01:27 PM
The single player looks nice!!!!

Mutt
03-27-2013, 02:38 PM
UbiSoft is a publisher with a number of development teams around the world. DICE is a developer.

DICE = 323 employees
UbiSoft = 6927

I got publisher and developer mixed up. Gamecube managed to get most of EA's games. Your correct there's truth to them not stretching itself thin but I also think it also has to do with Wii U sales atm. If Nintendo moneyhatted them it may of been a different story I dunno. They have to open the warchest up.

Mutt
03-27-2013, 02:45 PM
Yup. I thought the WiiU was an upgrade for the Wii for the longest time. Just like I thought the 3DS was just a 3D model of the DS.

Nintedo advertising is beyond awful.

They should of gotten whomever it was that did the advertising for the Wii for both systems. The two guys showing up at the door with the wii remotes and saying "Wii want to play". That 30 second commericial clearly showed what the system was about and demonstrated motion controls. I can't figure out why they didn't spend money on advertising. All we got is a dubstep commerical (it doesn't show the console) that barely showed the GamePad and you still saw them focus on motion controls. I think they were rolling the die and were hoping for another Wii mania where the system sold itself because of unique controls , word of mouth and clever advertising.

But getting back to BF4. I just don't think developers want to spend the time to figure out the console and the GamePad.

Beantown
03-27-2013, 03:09 PM
Just watched the 17 minute video the graphics look great, looks like the video was of the single player campaign not multiplayer. Looking forward to the release will be a definite per-order. Hoping to get into the beta.

theczech99
03-28-2013, 12:14 PM
I feel the lack of info for PS4/next gen is due to the rumored EA-Microsoft deal that will be announced during the unveiling of the next xbox. Sony made a very smart move by saying we will let MS go first then a few days later setting a date for the PS4 announcement. By the time MS has their show they will have given PS4 2 months of being the entire buzz when referencing the next gen consoles and games.



http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398304/battlefield-4-confirmed-for-ps4-report/

Electronic Arts has reportedly confirmed that Battlefield 4 is on its way to PlayStation 4.
http://cdn.medialib.computerandvideogames.com/screens/dir_2992/image_299200_thumb_wide300.jpg (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/viewer.php?mode=article&id=299200) While it would seem inevitable that the high-end shooter will arrive on Sony and Microsoft's next consoles, developer DICE and publisher EA have been reluctant to even discuss next-gen console versions (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398098/battlefield-4-dice-not-actively-looking-at-wii-u-wont-talk-next-gen/). According to Polygon (http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/27/4151852/battlefield-4-17-minute-trailer), however, at least one 'EA official' at GDC was prepared to confirm a PS4 version.
"The game is coming to the Windows PC, PS3, PS4 and Xbox 360, according to Electronic Arts officials," reports Polygon.
"While the PS4 edition is not currently listed on the official pre-order site for the game, an Electronic Arts official confirmed that the game is coming to the platform," it adds.
DICE executive producer Patrick Bach dodged questioning regarding next-gen console versions of BF4 in an interview with CVG today.
BF4's creative director Lars Gustavsson has also refused to confirm a PS4 (http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/battlefield_4/news/battlefield_4_the_interview.html) or next-Xbox version during talks with press at GDC this week.
Battlefield 4 was revealed last night (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398075/battlefield-4-watch-17-minutes-of-gameplay-footage/) with a visually intense gameplay trailer running on PC, with graphics clearly far beyond the capabilities of current-gen console hardware.
Pre-orders for PS3 and Xbox 360 versions are now open (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398127/battlefield-4-pre-order-bonuses-and-special-edition-revealed/), despite the fact that DICE is yet to show those versions of the game running.

Spike Forehand
03-29-2013, 06:18 PM
Finally got around to watching the 17 min video. Really awesome graphics. Smooth as silk.

However, I can't imagine that running on anything but next gen consoles or PC, so will not preorder or buy for PS3.

Retro
03-29-2013, 07:07 PM
Finally got around to watching the 17 min video. Really awesome graphics. Smooth as silk.

However, I can't imagine that running on anything but next gen consoles or PC, so will not preorder or buy for PS3.

The vid was running on a PC. One of the devs from DICE did confirm next gen but said nothing would be made "official" until E3.

mechatool
03-29-2013, 09:53 PM
It sounds like it will release on the ps4. It's confirmed, I am preordering the ps4 just for battlefield4. I can't wait, it's going to be nice playing with 60-32 players ( fingers crossed ), on frostbite 3, and 60fps.

theczech99
04-02-2013, 04:47 PM
No co-op for BF4.


DICE is "very interested" in eSports support for Battlefield 4, according to studio general manager Karl Magnus Troedsson.

"I can say that eSports is an area that we are very interested in," Troedsson told Leutin09 in a new video interview posted on YouTube.

Troedsson did not go into any further detail, as only Battlefield 4's single-player has been revealed that far. Still, he explained that eSports is a growing phenomenon and that it will be no easy task to pull it off in the final product.

"It's not as easy as some game developers like to think; that's it's just that you do A, X, Y, and Z and everything is done. It's actually much bigger than that now," Troedsson said. "There are some people that actually see this as a new phenomenon and that's not true either. It's been around for a long time. It's just recently that it's really starting to take off…"

Troedsson further explained that Battlefield multiplayer has always been "very competitive" and "the heart" of every new installment in the series.

"And that won't change moving forward," he said.

Also during the interview, Troedsson revealed that Battlefield 3's cooperative mode will not return for Battlefield 4. "We don't have co-op in Battlefield 4. We have made that decision. We're focusing everything we have on multiplayer and the single-player," he said.

Retro
04-02-2013, 04:58 PM
No co-op??? AWESOME, focus on the MP.

donhardeone
04-03-2013, 07:28 AM
I liked the co-op, but I can't say that I will miss it. I'd much rather see them focus on the multiplayer since it is the primary reason I buy/play Battlefield games.

SouthtownSlayer
04-03-2013, 07:44 AM
I liked the co-op, but I can't say that I will miss it. I'd much rather see them focus on the multiplayer since it is the primary reason I buy/play Battlefield games.

Prior to leaving for work this morning I read somewhere that DICE has said it's primary focus won't be multiplayer! (Yeah, I know, WTF!) I'll see if I can dig this article up when I get home from work.

Edit: Looks like it will shift some of it's focus towards the SP of BF4

Link to Article on MP1st (http://mp1st.com/2013/04/01/battlefield-is-no-longer-a-multiplayer-only-game-dice-to-limit-battlefield-4s-multiplayer-development/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=battlefield-is-no-longer-a-multiplayer-only-game-dice-to-limit-battlefield-4s-multiplayer-development)

LandShark
04-03-2013, 08:55 AM
Prior to leaving for work this morning I read somewhere that DICE has said it's primary focus won't be multiplayer! (Yeah, I know, WTF!) I'll see if I can dig this article up when I get home from work.

Edit: Looks like it will shift some of it's focus towards the SP of BF4

Link to Article on MP1st (http://mp1st.com/2013/04/01/battlefield-is-no-longer-a-multiplayer-only-game-dice-to-limit-battlefield-4s-multiplayer-development/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=battlefield-is-no-longer-a-multiplayer-only-game-dice-to-limit-battlefield-4s-multiplayer-development)

Comments say it was an April Fools joke.

Retro
04-03-2013, 09:07 AM
Prior to leaving for work this morning I read somewhere that DICE has said it's primary focus won't be multiplayer! (Yeah, I know, WTF!) I'll see if I can dig this article up when I get home from work.

Edit: Looks like it will shift some of it's focus towards the SP of BF4

Link to Article on MP1st (http://mp1st.com/2013/04/01/battlefield-is-no-longer-a-multiplayer-only-game-dice-to-limit-battlefield-4s-multiplayer-development/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=battlefield-is-no-longer-a-multiplayer-only-game-dice-to-limit-battlefield-4s-multiplayer-development)

That was their crappy April Fools day joke.

LandShark
04-03-2013, 10:24 AM
fricken cruel is what that was!!

SouthtownSlayer
04-03-2013, 11:03 AM
Comments say it was an April Fools joke.

Yeah, I know just thought I'd let you all know that April Fools Day can fall on any day of the week!!! muahahahahahaha :twisted:

ROW
04-03-2013, 11:44 AM
Not really sure where to post this, did a search for Battlefield 4 and didn't come up with anything.....

Well, looks like you they have a website for BF4 (http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield-4) now, you can log in with your origin account and once logged in it gives you a basic update of what to expect. You also get a dog tag "I Was There" to use in BF3. ... Lets hope BF4 is released on new ps4' .. ooh'.. can't wait' ...

TonkaToys
04-09-2013, 07:38 AM
:gossip: BF4 pre-orders get the Drone Strike expansion pack

http://battlefieldlog.com/2013/03/28/battlefield-4-marketing-poster-dlc/

I hope this doesn't mean we'll have killstreaks like COD?

HardlyCapable13
04-09-2013, 09:08 AM
I hope this doesn't mean we'll have killstreaks like COD?

I certainly hope not. I will skip this title if that is what's happening. I cannot stand kill streaks. One of the reasons I avoid COD titles.

krisk6
05-04-2013, 11:41 AM
Which MP is most likely to be found hiding behind a rock sniffing the crotch of a dead female wookie?

Not that there's any thing wrong with that.

Wel - actually there's a lot wrong with it.

Wow i am amazed that y'all even still use that term still..... LoL the brining of wookies back would be the real meaning of Presto Bitch......lol

XLethalXPrincess
05-08-2013, 02:33 PM
Lots of people do.




Yes but it's easily beat in single player making it sorta boring..although there are many trophies to unlock its still mainly a game focusing on multiplayer and online play. Teamwork!!! :)

XLethalXPrincess
05-08-2013, 03:37 PM
My money is that they will be adding a female to one of the MP classes and I hope it is the recon class. This would add a new meaning to the phrase Presto Bitch!

I would absolutely love that! Last thing you see before you get stabbed is tits to the face lmao

HardlyCapable13
05-08-2013, 03:39 PM
I would absolutely love that! Last thing you see before you get stabbed is tits to the face lmao

Then, instead of tea bagging them, you serve up a "TACO STAMP".

krisk6
05-08-2013, 05:46 PM
Then, instead of tea bagging them, you serve up a "TACO STAMP".

LMFAO good one........

XLethalXPrincess
05-08-2013, 06:59 PM
Then, instead of tea bagging them, you serve up a "TACO STAMP".
Omg you sir are amazing :) taco stamp lmfao!!!

HardlyCapable13
05-08-2013, 07:51 PM
Omg you sir are amazing :) taco stamp lmfao!!!

If I were a female that would be my gamertag.

XLethalXPrincess
05-08-2013, 10:16 PM
If I were a female that would be my gamertag.
And I would respect the fu** out of you lol!!!

Madlob75
05-09-2013, 08:11 AM
So that's what all the taco talk was last night. LOL

krisk6
05-09-2013, 08:57 AM
So that's what all the taco talk was last night. LOL

Haha ya see told ya guess it wasn't as funny unless you read this

XLethalXPrincess
05-09-2013, 11:51 AM
Haha ya see told ya guess it wasn't as funny unless you read this


Ahhh I had an amazing photo to go with that but it won't let me upload it :/ sad day...

Retro
05-21-2013, 04:57 PM
This image makes me happy.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/923318_10151454278857672_1788509160_n.jpg

Spike Forehand
05-22-2013, 04:01 PM
May be old news, but I just noticed that BF Facebook page now has a BF4 launch date of 10/29 as well as officially confirmed for PS4 and Xbox One.

Gink
05-23-2013, 04:31 PM
May be old news, but I just noticed that BF Facebook page now has a BF4 launch date of 10/29 as well as officially confirmed for PS4 and Xbox One.

This will make things interesting, coming out so soon before the next gen consoles. I imagine a lot of us will want to be playing this right away, so will pick it up for PS3/360, but then what to do when next gen drops? I know some folks plan to buy next gen at launch, but others of us will probably hold off a bit. What are the chances Next Gen will be able to play online with current gen?

I'm not usually one to jump on a console launch. Between paying top dollar that I don't usually have, and considering the first batch often have kinks to work out, I usually hold out for a price drop and refinements to be made, but where everyone goes with this title could sway me. We could end up with our Battlefield group split 4 ways into PS3, 360, PS4, One groups...

TonkaToys
05-24-2013, 04:42 AM
Official blog confirms date as 29 Oct for XBox360, PC and PS3.

There is a pre-order offer to get a free map pack, China Rising.

http://blogs.battlefield.com/2013/05/recapping-everything-battlefield-4/

mechatool
05-24-2013, 12:20 PM
This will make things interesting, coming out so soon before the next gen consoles. I imagine a lot of us will want to be playing this right away, so will pick it up for PS3/360, but then what to do when next gen drops? I know some folks plan to buy next gen at launch, but others of us will probably hold off a bit. What are the chances Next Gen will be able to play online with current gen?

I'm not usually one to jump on a console launch. Between paying top dollar that I don't usually have, and considering the first batch often have kinks to work out, I usually hold out for a price drop and refinements to be made, but where everyone goes with this title could sway me. We could end up with our Battlefield group split 4 ways into PS3, 360, PS4, One groups...

I normally wait for the price to drop on next gen also, but I plan on picking up a PS4 on launch to play BF4.

sam007
05-24-2013, 01:41 PM
Which MP is most likely to be found hiding behind a rock sniffing the crotch of a dead female wookie?

Not that there's any thing wrong with that.

Wel - actually there's a lot wrong with it.

HAHAHA, only Spike. ;)

sam007
05-24-2013, 01:43 PM
It sounds like it will release on the ps4. It's confirmed, I am preordering the ps4 just for battlefield4. I can't wait, it's going to be nice playing with 60-32 players ( fingers crossed ), on frostbite 3, and 60fps.


You can do it right now, its called a PC ;) Just messing with ya Mecha, you Apple guy, you. :)

sam007
05-24-2013, 01:46 PM
This will make things interesting, coming out so soon before the next gen consoles. I imagine a lot of us will want to be playing this right away, so will pick it up for PS3/360, but then what to do when next gen drops? I know some folks plan to buy next gen at launch, but others of us will probably hold off a bit. What are the chances Next Gen will be able to play online with current gen?

I'm not usually one to jump on a console launch. Between paying top dollar that I don't usually have, and considering the first batch often have kinks to work out, I usually hold out for a price drop and refinements to be made, but where everyone goes with this title could sway me. We could end up with our Battlefield group split 4 ways into PS3, 360, PS4, One groups...

Makes a good point here, so the question is, who's getting the current gen version and who's gonna wait for the next gen version?

Those who have a PC capable of running BF3, that should be an easy option to make, get it for PC then make the switch to next gen console. :wink:

Badgerute
05-24-2013, 03:37 PM
Makes a good point here, so the question is, who's getting the current gen version and who's gonna wait for the next gen version?

Those who have a PC capable of running BF3, that should be an easy option to make, get it for PC then make the switch to next gen console. :wink:

Depending on the timing of each release, I may get all 3. Viva BF4!

Gink
05-24-2013, 04:44 PM
Makes a good point here, so the question is, who's getting the current gen version and who's gonna wait for the next gen version?

Those who have a PC capable of running BF3, that should be an easy option to make, get it for PC then make the switch to next gen console. :wink:

I hadn't even considered the PC option, I guess because we're mostly console gamers around here, never seem to be more than 1 or 2 who play it on pc.
But we know BF4 won't have an online pass, so depending on what the console makers do about used games, might be able to buy it for current gen and get some of that money back to rebuy for next gen.
PC you probably download from Origin and have no resale potential. Of course if you buy it for PC then next Gen, you at least won't have 1 copy with inferior graphics, etc like you would holding on to a current gen console copy.

Way to make the conundrum even more confusing Beans.

I'll decide for sure when we know more about dates/price of the PS4, but I'll most likely pick it up for PS3 and wait for next gen to be "battle tested" and drop in price a bit.
The wife seems to think we need to get a PS4 immediately, which makes no sense to me since her backlog of PS3 games to finish is about 5 times as long as mine. Seriously, how many years am I supposed to keep the secret of how Red Dead Redemption ends from her? But if she keeps pushing for a ps4 around launch it may be one of those things I don't fight too hard against. She always gets her way anyhow, of course.

sam007
05-24-2013, 04:48 PM
Way to make the conundrum even more confusing Beans.



We should thank EA and Dice for all this, its nothing more than a money grab if you ask me.

sam007
05-24-2013, 04:51 PM
Depending on the timing of each release, I may get all 3. Viva BF4!

Must be nice to be a lawyer. :wink:

I've been playing a bit on PC now that future work is not as time consuming, still working out a few bugs but nothing major. I tried playing some console and its just not the same in terms of controls. I was able to pick them out of the sky on Omen for PC while they falling from the sky with their chutes deployed. Good feeling, can't say I could have done that on console.

Gink
05-24-2013, 04:58 PM
Must be nice to be a lawyer. :wink:

I've been playing a bit on PC now that future work is not as time consuming, still working out a few bugs but nothing major. I tried playing some console and its just not the same in terms of controls. I was able to pick them out of the sky on Omen for PC while they falling from the sky with their chutes deployed. Good feeling, can't say I could have done that on console.

Nah, I always feel lucky if I can take one out. Still, I've stayed away from BF3 on PC mostly for fear of the controls. I have a PC capable of running it, but feel like I'd feel the need to buy a special mouse and extras and such just to be able to compete. I like that on console everyone is more or less on even footing with hardware and controllers. I've started doing more PC gaming in the last year since I got a decent machine, but still prefer console for most games. Of course I'm also incredibly lazy and don't want to bother switching my headset over to the PC, or hell, even rebooting out of Ubuntu into Windows just to play a game is often more effort than I'm willing to make.

sam007
05-24-2013, 05:04 PM
Nah, I always feel lucky if I can take one out. Still, I've stayed away from BF3 on PC mostly for fear of the controls. I have a PC capable of running it, but feel like I'd feel the need to buy a special mouse and extras and such just to be able to compete. I like that on console everyone is more or less on even footing with hardware and controllers. I've started doing more PC gaming in the last year since I got a decent machine, but still prefer console for most games. Of course I'm also incredibly lazy and don't want to bother switching my headset over to the PC, or hell, even rebooting out of Ubuntu into Windows just to play a game is often more effort than I'm willing to make.

Oh boy, here we go again with PC advantages of hardware, etc. :wink: If you got a copy of BF3, we can arrange a time to play as I'm mostly random now. Dinsdale asked me a while back but that time I was unable to play any forms of game, PC or console.

I bought 2 Logitech G300 mice, not sure if they still sell them for about $30 each, cheaper compared to other high DPI mice, which I don't need cause all I run is 1000 DPI, any higher and I'm all over the place. Just make sure you have your rig setup internal so its 1:1 of mouse movement, X-Factor made a video about that if you need it, I can pull it up but its on here somewhere, :laugh:

Needless to say, I did go through a few mice before finding one that's most intuitive for what I want to do, but that's what the return policy is for. :wink:

Gink
05-25-2013, 12:33 PM
Heh. Well my Logitech M325 does 1000dpi, but it doesn't have 9 buttons! I suppose that could make PC gaming quite a bit more intuitive though. When using the keyboard to control movement I find it pretty non-immersive to have to move my hand to find the right key to do something.

sam007
05-28-2013, 01:13 AM
Heh. Well my Logitech M325 does 1000dpi, but it doesn't have 9 buttons! I suppose that could make PC gaming quite a bit more intuitive though. When using the keyboard to control movement I find it pretty non-immersive to have to move my hand to find the right key to do something.

I just takes practice and it all becomes muscle memory afterwards. It just sucks somethings you run into guys who can shoot +20% with the M16 or AEK, guys like that, we don't even stand a chance.

sam007
06-10-2013, 04:06 PM
there's gonna be battle commander in the game, don't know how that's gonna work with a bunch of randoms.

Ullrsdog
06-10-2013, 04:37 PM
there's gonna be battle commander in the game, don't know how that's gonna work with a bunch of randoms.

well during the peak of BF3 we would see 12 or more MP's playing...so if we say we can get 15 of the 32 players on one team I don't know if the blueberries will matter too much. Even now there are any number of games where 4-6 of us will dominate the scoreboard and go on a 14+ game winstreak.

Downside of the demo for me was DAMN how long did they practice that! SOOOOOO very staged...the tank rolls up HEY tank out there....ok blow this up I have C4...ok nice! then the heli hovers right in the window for an easy rocket kill...not to mention oh man do you feel the building shaking...commander blow up the tanks...

Folks were in pre-determined spots to intentionally highlight various aspects...game looked AWESOME and Destruction was very cool but the staged nature of the "game play" was a bit weak.

Badgerute
06-10-2013, 06:22 PM
well during the peak of BF3 we would see 12 or more MP's playing...so if we say we can get 15 of the 32 players on one team I don't know if the blueberries will matter too much. Even now there are any number of games where 4-6 of us will dominate the scoreboard and go on a 14+ game winstreak.

Downside of the demo for me was DAMN how long did they practice that! SOOOOOO very staged...the tank rolls up HEY tank out there....ok blow this up I have C4...ok nice! then the heli hovers right in the window for an easy rocket kill...not to mention oh man do you feel the building shaking...commander blow up the tanks...

Folks were in pre-determined spots to intentionally highlight various aspects...game looked AWESOME and Destruction was very cool but the staged nature of the "game play" was a bit weak.

I saw a whole skyscraper come down. I saw a guy shoot the ceiling/floor out to create an exit. That kind of destruction is going to be sweet. What will blow is that commander mode if you have some jackoff as the commander. From the little I saw, that seems like a pretty pivotal role. The one thing that concerns me with the larger numbers on each team is that currently you can have four of us on a team and typically that will be enough to be competitive/win. Now, if you have 4 or 5 of us on a team, it will be incredibly diluted by the rest of the team, and won't really matter. Makes having a very large team of friends important.

Madlob75
06-10-2013, 10:00 PM
One thing I noticed was that the squad stayed together THE WHOLE TIME. I know I'm guilty of just being off somewhere else, but with maps this big and with so many players it looks like staying together will be critical.

Yes, it did look staged, but cool nonetheless. Still weary of Commander. They made it seem like someone on a tablet, not even in the game, can be the commander. I don't like the idea of random tomahawks raining down. Reminds me of Medal of Honor 2010 and cruise missile spams.

Overall I'm very excited.

SouthtownSlayer
06-10-2013, 10:05 PM
$399.00 nuff said!

Gink
06-11-2013, 12:11 AM
One thing I noticed was that the squad stayed together THE WHOLE TIME. I know I'm guilty of just being off somewhere else, but with maps this big and with so many players it looks like staying together will be critical.

Yes, it did look staged, but cool nonetheless. Still weary of Commander. They made it seem like someone on a tablet, not even in the game, can be the commander. I don't like the idea of random tomahawks raining down. Reminds me of Medal of Honor 2010 and cruise missile spams.

Overall I'm very excited.

Yeah, it was fun to watch, but there were those 2 things you never see in BF Multiplayer. A whole squad moving together like that, and no one in the squad dying. Rarely even took damage for standing out in the open. But pretty impressive display of the map, destruction, vehicles, etc. The skyscraper coming down was awesome, and interesting since it had C flag in it. They were playing on PC, but hopefully there will be fewer differences to maps and such between PC and Console with next gen than there were for BF3. Not sure what to think of Commander mode, but excited for the game overall.

sam007
06-11-2013, 12:09 PM
Guys, 64 players, its even more important to stick as a group. No matter how well you lone wolf, its pretty hard to cap and hold a flag when there are 32 on the other side.

As Rad always mentions, "combat spacing" no need to cuddle up and be BFF's on the BF, :laugh:

There were times I'd try to solo on a 64 player server and I pretty much got nowhere besides death.

Just something to think about. :smile:

If we get 16 of us on one side, its game over. Not sure how important the commander role will be since I never played BF2 at its peak.

sureMOE
06-11-2013, 05:03 PM
If we get 16 of us on one side, its game over. Not sure how important the commander role will be since I never played BF2 at its peak.

I use to be able to turn the tide of a losing team if I was given the chance to be a commander. It all depends on if your team mates will listen to your lead or not. You actually direct squads to certain locations to secure, defend or capture. If they don't listen to you, it doesn't do any good.

64 player maps scare me...every time I played them on BF2, it was nothing but death, death, death, horribly wounded, death sprinkled with more death. I hope they can limit some servers and have around 45-50 players. That always seemed the sweet spot. But, it will also depend on the amount of ground we have to cover.

I pre-ordered my PS4 today! Woot!

Spike Forehand
06-11-2013, 07:51 PM
Finally watched that MP video today. Damn does that look good. Loved when they blew up the street underneath the tank.

Also - did I see 6-man squads?

HardlyCapable13
06-11-2013, 07:56 PM
Also - did I see 6-man squads?

5 man squads I believe.

Retro
06-11-2013, 08:06 PM
5 man squads I believe.

I think it's still 4 man squads except for the squad that includes the Commander.

Gink
06-11-2013, 08:14 PM
I think it's still 4 man squads except for the squad that includes the Commander.

Not sure, I watched the video a dozen times. It looked to me like the commanders name was off to the left in blue, separate from the 5 in squad. And I counted 5 in the elevator with no blueberries crashing the party. Of course they were on PC so hard to guess what we'll see.

Spike Forehand
06-12-2013, 08:50 AM
I saw the five green names on the HUD, so I was assuming that's your five squadmates, for a total squad size of six including you. Will have to watch again to see if the player is part of the five names.

Question I would have is what do you guys think is an ideal squad size? I like the idea of six so you coulda always have two support + recon + medic + engineer + one flex spot depending on map. Four was too low IMO.

Ullrsdog
06-12-2013, 09:44 AM
I saw the five green names on the HUD, so I was assuming that's your five squadmates, for a total squad size of six including you. Will have to watch again to see if the player is part of the five names.

Question I would have is what do you guys think is an ideal squad size? I like the idea of six so you coulda always have two support + recon + medic + engineer + one flex spot depending on map. Four was too low IMO.

depends on the server size....close quarters 4 seemed fine for those 8v8 maps. 64 man servers I would say 6 sounds like it would feel right. Now in the videos and commentary I've heard the squads are 5 men...so 6 squads and 2 guys left out...which seems strange. Even if they are squads of 6 there are 2 guys left out of the squads.

SouthtownSlayer
06-12-2013, 09:49 AM
depends on the server size....close quarters 4 seemed fine for those 8v8 maps. 64 man servers I would say 6 sounds like it would feel right. Now in the videos and commentary I've heard the squads are 5 men...so 6 squads and 2 guys left out...which seems strange. Even if they are squads of 6 there are 2 guys left out of the squads.

Thank you for your explanation kind sir...I am now officially confused!!!

sam007
06-12-2013, 09:53 AM
Thank you for your explanation kind sir...I am now officially confused!!!

:laugh:

Dog, remember to KISS for these Navy guys.

Madlob75
06-12-2013, 09:55 AM
abcdefg

Ullrsdog
06-12-2013, 09:58 AM
Thank you for your explanation kind sir...I am now officially confused!!!

I like video games

when games are small squads should be small too

when games are big squads should get bigger

Math is hard

How bout that southside? :boink:

SouthtownSlayer
06-12-2013, 11:10 AM
I like video games

when games are small squads should be small too

when games are big squads should get bigger

Math is hard

How bout that southside? :boink:

Hey now, nobody said you had to know math to be part of this rag tag bunch of SMRT people!

TrojanTeacher
06-12-2013, 11:39 AM
Being an old BF2 player, I just have to say that I almost creamed myself seeing COMMANDER MODE come back. It was one of those things that allowed us to communicate with the whole team without too much chatter. If they make it work the way it use to, then this is what it was like.

1. Created a chain of command -- Grunts couldn't talk to the commander. Grunts only talked to the Squad Leader. If the Squad Leader needed something, then they would communicate with the Commander. If the Commander needed something, then they would communicate with the Squad Leader themselves. The Grunts would never hear the commander, they would get their commands from the squad leader. Grunts would see the Commanders orders on their mini-map or main screen, but they would never hear them. Basically, Grunts talked to Squad Leaders, whom talked to Commanders. No more unnecesary chatter.

2. A Break In Playing -- At times, playing BF2 over and over again, round-by-round, got a bit ridiculous if you kept losing. You would throw your hat in for a chance to be commander and if chosen you were given a new role. A role to assist your team as much as possible through use of satellites and other things. It was a really fun mode because it gave you a different feeling of accomplishment. And if your team won, you were given a boost in points for being a team player.

3. Commander Weapons

-----------------> UAV's -- You were able to send mobile UAV's to one location to scan for enemies. Usually, I would send them to the location that I was sending a squad so they would have early alerts if there were any enemies near by. The UAV's could be destroyed by the enemy, so you always looked up as you played as well. This could be requested by a squad leader and the commander would get the request as an alert. If a squad member requested a UAV, only the squad leader would get the message, not the commander.

-----------------> Artillery -- The commander could send the arty early, or wait for it to be requested.

-----------------> SATLINK -- This was a quick scan of the WHOLE map. It gave you 5 seconds to see the enemies as red marks on the map so that you could ID the enemy as fast as possible in many different locations. This could also be requested.

-----------------> Health/Ammo Packs -- Think of this as a care package for CoD (yes, CoD took this from BF2). If a squad needed it by request or if the commander just sent it, it would help the squads to heal and reload. I use to use this as a weapon. Drop the care package near the enemy and launch an arty strike on the package at the same time. There was a about a 5 second delay before the arty would hit, so the enemy would run to the box and start resupplying and repairing, then...BOOM!!! Haha.

-----------------> Is the Commander Invincible? -- No. They are just a normal soldier. Find them, kill them. They will respawn though. Also, UAV and Arty weapons only exist if their UAV Truck and Artillery Guns are operational. They could be destroyed using C4, so the commander always had to be aware of enemy RECON coming to sabotage them.

mechatool
06-12-2013, 12:56 PM
Commander Mode Explained!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJwmN-eMk7U

TrojanTeacher
06-12-2013, 01:11 PM
With 64 players available in a game, I think it's time you PS3 players move to the 360. I'm just sayin'. It's science.

sam007
06-12-2013, 01:44 PM
With 64 players available in a game, I think it's time you PS3 players move to the 360. I'm just sayin'. It's science.

Freak's joined the PS3 side of late, not sure if its a permanent move though. Just sayin' :wink:

sam007
06-12-2013, 01:55 PM
I use to be able to turn the tide of a losing team if I was given the chance to be a commander. It all depends on if your team mates will listen to your lead or not. You actually direct squads to certain locations to secure, defend or capture. If they don't listen to you, it doesn't do any good.

64 player maps scare me...every time I played them on BF2, it was nothing but death, death, death, horribly wounded, death sprinkled with more death. I hope they can limit some servers and have around 45-50 players. That always seemed the sweet spot. But, it will also depend on the amount of ground we have to cover.

I pre-ordered my PS4 today! Woot!

Since you can't shoot worth of sh!t, you've got my nomination, :laugh:

sam007
06-12-2013, 02:36 PM
Am I hearing right and reading correct, each time you reload, you lose the remaining rounds from the discarded mag?

Also vehicles have limited ammo? FCUK YEAH! no more annoying chopper whoring! (I'm sure they will find a way to still be annoying!)

HardlyCapable13
06-12-2013, 02:48 PM
With 64 players available in a game, I think it's time you PS3 players move to the 360. I'm just sayin'. It's science.

Wait, it's 64 players on 360? Damn!

I'll be getting for the xBONE though.

SouthtownSlayer
06-13-2013, 04:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS8m60PTRfw

Ammo pack sounds interesting!

roadrnr
06-13-2013, 09:59 AM
Here's a quick rundown of the new features:

- Out-of-box VOIP for PC.

- Spectator mode with free-cam officially confirmed. Free-cam will have 5 cameras that you can place anywhere on the map.

- No confirmation of Spectator mode being available on the PS4/Xbox One... yet. [UPDATE - Apparently Spectator mode has been confirmed tobe coming to all platforms]

- Option to remove all HUD and have a clean screen should you choose to record.

- 'Sprint Swim' and the ability to fire sidearm while in water. Diving down into water also confirmed.

- Green laser sight attachment as well as the normal red one.

- Support class no longer has C4, Recon's do. Recon's also have the 'Motion Ball' Gadget back.

- Attack heli pilot has a maximum of 42 rockets and fires thestandard 14 rockets.

- Attack heli gunner also has limited ammo, thought to be of 60rounds in total, 30 before reloading.

- Patrol boat ammo also 60 rounds in total, 30 each time before reloading.

- Main Battle Tanks (MBT's) have a total of 5 primary weapon rounds, 1 ready, 4 chambered.

- AC-130 Gunship now has limited ammo.

- Snipers will be able to measure target's distance byhitting the 'V' key on PC.

- Assault class will have smaller, limited med-pack known as'Survival Kits' which can be directly applied and will be able to heal teammates on the move. Same goes for Support class and smaller, direct and limited ammo packs.

- Spectator mode allows switching to each player's perspective with the F1, F2, F3 and F4 keys.

- Indestructible tank bollards to prevent them from entering certain areas. Can be lowered if player exits tank and presses button next to said bollards.

- Commander can drop supply crates which will replenish vehicle ammo.

- Vehicle resupply stations can also be found.

- Suppression exclusive to LMG's and sniper rifles, dependent onrange though.

- Four types of grenades. Standard M67 grenade,Incendiary grenade (which you can see in action by clicking here (http://i.imgur.com/aJO0BHY.jpg)),Flashbang and Smoke grenade.

- Customisable sidearms. This includes scopes and possibly barrel modifications.

- In-game player performance reports when spectating.

- Snipers will have variable zoom when scoped in.

- Individual tires can NOT be blown out on vehicles.

- Gunship notification for infantry.

-Battlefield 4 map pack 'Second Assault' coming to Xbox One before any other platform.

- 60FPS on Xbox One and PS4.

- 64 players on Xbox One and PS4.

The fourth installment to the franchise will bring 64 player servers to the next-gen consoles. Not only that,but each next-gen console will run the game at a smooth 60 frames per second.

-'Levolution' (terrain deformation)..

- Commander Mode confirmed.

- 5 player squads.

- Squad Specialization progression?

-Suppression Assists seen in multiplayer.

- Assault boats, jet-ski's.- Commander artillery (Tomahawk missile).

- C flag in multiplayer footage disappeared when skyscraper holding it fell. C flag returns as pile of debris as you can see below.

- EMP,Gunship, Tomahawk missile and UAV confirmed.

- Recon class now has C4 explosives.

- China confirmed as a playable faction.

- Live cam of action on the ground when playing as a Commander.

- Counter knife confirmed.

- Vehicle ammo and 4 seats in boat.

- Boats now have regular vehicle weapons.

- Two seats on jet-ski, no mounted weapons. Player on back can fire their weapon when seated, similar to BF3's quad bike.

- New mobile Battlelog.

- Night vision in heli's.




All that being said...I'm thinking I will get it on PC for sure. I'm seriously considering moving to the dark side with the PS4. The price point and the "always" on BS from the xbox are my 2 biggest reasons to possibly switch....

sam007
06-13-2013, 01:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuftJA9wKiI

sam007
06-13-2013, 01:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS8m60PTRfw

Ammo pack sounds interesting!


You talking about the stickies? :laugh:

Who's gonna be our Upham?

mechatool
06-13-2013, 02:13 PM
Battlefield 4 Alpha Armor Dynamics


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH6mREcoYhw

mechatool
06-13-2013, 02:29 PM
BF4 Squad Perks Explained.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-cJhOCd7GY

RC-1136
06-13-2013, 02:32 PM
I am starting to have BF4 info overload. I think I am going to have an anxiety attack trying to take this all in.

Retro
06-13-2013, 03:00 PM
I am starting to have BF4 info overload. I think I am going to have an anxiety attack trying to take this all in.

And just about 4 to 5 months before you can actually play it!

sam007
06-13-2013, 07:10 PM
Anyone notice the new spotting mechanics? Hand comes off weapon, points, then back onto weapon. Did you notice all the Doritos above their heads? I can't hit jack without the chip!

Gink
06-13-2013, 08:25 PM
Anyone notice the new spotting mechanics? Hand comes off weapon, points, then back onto weapon. Did you notice all the Doritos above their heads? I can't hit jack without the chip!

I noticed in one of the vids dude kept shooting blueberries. Seemed like if they are at a little distance they aren't marked friend/foe, thought the blueberries were at least showing on the minimap.
EMP will take some getting used to, think it blocks both motion sensors and regular spotting from showing players on the minimap.

Madlob75
06-14-2013, 05:54 AM
It looks like the US side is always blue and the CN side is always orange. I can see this leading to a lot of confusion.

mechatool
06-14-2013, 09:31 AM
It looks like the US side is always blue and the CN side is always orange. I can see this leading to a lot of confusion.

If this is true, I'm going to be the one who is always confused. This is hardwired in my brain........Blue=Friendly Orange=Foe.

sam007
06-14-2013, 03:14 PM
It could be an alpha thing, so I would not put too much emphasis on the Doritos colours. :smile:

Madlob75
06-16-2013, 01:51 PM
I may have missed a comment about this already, but I have a question. 64 man games....32 per team...5 man squads...who will be the two poor suckers in a 2 man squad.

TonkaToys
06-17-2013, 05:32 AM
If this is true, I'm going to be the one who is always confused. This is hardwired in my brain........Blue=Friendly Orange=Foe.

I think that is for Spectator Mode only...


What’s up with the different colors on objectives and soldiers?
The current implementation in Spectator Mode quickly helps spectators identify the two teams (one will always be blue, the other always red). This can be different from a gamer’s first-person view has a different and more granular color coding, where green means squad mate, blue is team mate, and red means enemy. We’re working to implement a color-coding system that will be both consistent and recognizable to bring continuity between matches.


http://blogs.battlefield.com/2013/06/bf4-spectator-mode/

Spike Forehand
06-17-2013, 06:41 AM
Love the spectator mode. Hope they let you watch while you are waiting to join a game. I hate on BF3 where the put you on the waiting list and you have to just sit there.

sam007
06-17-2013, 09:39 AM
I may have missed a comment about this already, but I have a question. 64 man games....32 per team...5 man squads...who will be the two poor suckers in a 2 man squad.

Badger and his squad of Mutes. :lol:

Spike Forehand
06-17-2013, 10:59 AM
I may have missed a comment about this already, but I have a question. 64 man games....32 per team...5 man squads...who will be the two poor suckers in a 2 man squad.

Krisk and Lethal Princess.

Danbo
06-17-2013, 12:23 PM
This will be my first BF title coming over from BO2. I expect I will be well received and a member of the 2 odd men out? :P

SouthtownSlayer
06-17-2013, 12:27 PM
Badger and his squad of Mutes. :lol:

I second this vote!!!!

Badgerute
06-17-2013, 03:01 PM
I second this vote!!!!

I sense some prejudice on this board. Those who do not speak at all times are as valuable .... well actually more valuable than those who do because by keeping it quiet, it allows all to hear with clarity beano's dislike of shoddy internet connections, RC's anger, ullrsdog's embarrassing amount of knowledge regarding the minutiae of the game, and madlob's always positive attitude. With that being said, I will spam invites the entire game for 3 others to join me if I am stuck in a squad of two.

TonkaToys
06-17-2013, 04:49 PM
This will be my first BF title coming over from BO2. I expect I will be well received and a member of the 2 odd men out? :P

Yeah you and Major Stains can hang out together.

:grouphug:

lore77
06-17-2013, 06:56 PM
I think each team's commander is counted in the total of 32 players per side. I also think it had been said that the commander isn't a member of a squad so; that leaves 6 squads of 5 men = 30 players, 1 commander = 31 players which leaves 1 poor guy all by himself. One is the loneliest number.

Major Stains
06-17-2013, 07:07 PM
Yeah you and Major Stains can hang out together.

:grouphug:

It would be an honour to cower along side Danbo guarding each others tags'n'bags!

A quick question, is there any animosity for not using a mic on this game and the Playstation?
I'm quite happy to take orders through the headset, but am not in the position to use a mic 99% of the time.
I can understand why communication is important, but is it vital?

sam007
06-17-2013, 08:20 PM
The only piece of kit that was on show was the new PS4 controller – which features a touchpad interface where the Start and Select buttons previously appeared and a 3D tracking light panel

What the hell are we suppose to press to spam the spot function????

donhardeone
06-18-2013, 08:09 AM
It would be an honour to cower along side Danbo guarding each others tags'n'bags!

A quick question, is there any animosity for not using a mic on this game and the Playstation?
I'm quite happy to take orders through the headset, but am not in the position to use a mic 99% of the time.
I can understand why communication is important, but is it vital?
Just sayin Major, but the Xbox side has no requirement to talk. Our only requirement is that you have a cold beer in your hand. That way you talk on the mic anyway and say just as many stupid things as the rest of us. :wink:

sam007
06-18-2013, 03:26 PM
It would be an honour to cower along side Danbo guarding each others tags'n'bags!

A quick question, is there any animosity for not using a mic on this game and the Playstation?
I'm quite happy to take orders through the headset, but am not in the position to use a mic 99% of the time.
I can understand why communication is important, but is it vital?

Squad up with Badger. :laugh:

JK, its cool if you don't, we just enjoy the company of each other in a non-homo way. Isn't that right guys? :smile:

TonkaToys
06-18-2013, 03:30 PM
NOT GAY!

(no offence to people that are - isn't that right Beans? :wink: )

FeelinKorny
06-19-2013, 07:15 AM
I read via gameinformer that BF4 is 60fps, they are including new game modes but taking away some, character and weapon customization and practice modes for vehicles. Oh and 64 players. All this of course is the console versions.

Cant wait to dip dip potato chip with you guys!

RC-1136
06-19-2013, 07:57 AM
I sense some prejudice on this board. Those who do not speak at all times are as valuable .... well actually more valuable than those who do because by keeping it quiet, it allows all to hear with clarity beano's dislike of shoddy internet connections, RC's anger, ullrsdog's embarrassing amount of knowledge regarding the minutiae of the game, and madlob's always positive attitude. With that being said, I will spam invites the entire game for 3 others to join me if I am stuck in a squad of two.

I do miss your inaccurate in game predictions when you're not on mike, Badger.

RC-1136
06-19-2013, 07:59 AM
I may have missed a comment about this already, but I have a question. 64 man games....32 per team...5 man squads...who will be the two poor suckers in a 2 man squad.

Kamakazi and who ever wants to listen to him. He is the only one who is angrier than me.

FeelinKorny
06-19-2013, 08:47 AM
ill be the 2nd due to my lack of skills and you guys dumping me off.

Madlob75
06-19-2013, 12:22 PM
Kamakazi and who ever wants to listen to him. He is the only one who is angrier than me.

LOL...the Kamikaze Kackle (Beano's term).

Spike Forehand
06-19-2013, 01:42 PM
Man I love squadding up with both RC and Kamikaze. More entertaining than the game itself.

Spike Forehand
06-23-2013, 11:10 AM
http://youtu.be/GpNtYlPcRJU

Pretty funny.

HardlyCapable13
06-24-2013, 03:31 PM
Frostbite 3 feature vid with some new BF4 footage.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/06/24/battlefield-4-official-frostbite-3-feature-video

TonkaToys
06-27-2013, 11:45 AM
Battlefield 4 Second Assault DLC remakes four BF3 maps
...
No more specifics about the content were revealed. In a Reddit thread, Battlefield 4 gameplay designer Alan Kertz said "[Operation] Metro and Caspian [Border] are runaway favorites" in popularity.

Linkety (http://uk.gamespot.com/news/battlefield-4-second-assault-dlc-remakes-four-bf3-maps-6410747)

Also: A collection of what we know about BF4 (http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29406773/a-collection-of-what-we-know-about-bf4)

Spike Forehand
06-27-2013, 01:09 PM
Never understood the love for Caspian. Get sick and tired of running up that hill to C flag.

Alli want for Christmas is some Arica Harbor.

Ullrsdog
06-27-2013, 01:46 PM
Never understood the love for Caspian. Get sick and tired of running up that hill to C flag.

Alli want for Christmas is some Arica Harbor.

I think we'll see Caspian, metro, siene, and bazzar.

donhardeone
06-27-2013, 02:01 PM
Never understood the love for Caspian. Get sick and tired of running up that hill to C flag.

Alli want for Christmas is some Arica Harbor.

I think we ALL would love to see Arica Harbor back. I actually liked Caspian except for one minor thing: not enough friggin vehicles. If they could just throw another 2-3 ATVs on each side I'd have been happy, but it never failed that some jackasses would take off solo in every vehicle and leave half the team to trudge our way to the flags. Other than that I loved it.

sam007
07-03-2013, 06:13 PM
Yeah, bring back Arica Habour!

Some good old Nelson Bay deforestation would be equally as good!

ustolemygmrtag
07-03-2013, 07:19 PM
I would like to see the old BC2 maps come back. That would be sweet!!

Retro
07-03-2013, 09:56 PM
Never understood the love for Caspian. Get sick and tired of running up that hill to C flag.

Alli want for Christmas is some Arica Harbor.

Caspian would be way more fun with 64 players.

Gink
07-04-2013, 01:19 PM
Ahhhh nostalgia....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULbZUoPN5BU

ustolemygmrtag
07-04-2013, 01:51 PM
Good one Gink!!! I had forgotten about that one.

Madlob75
07-15-2013, 09:09 AM
I think this is a good idea. Can you imagine Metro?? No problem getting the Rambo dogtag.

http://gamingbolt.com/battlefield-4-multiplayer-count-may-be-increased-to-70-graphics-heavily-optimized-for-amd

Madlob75
07-16-2013, 11:34 AM
Hey Mech, I'm sure you are all over this!!

http://www.examiner.com/article/ea-challenges-you-to-create-a-dog-tag-for-battlefield-4

mechatool
07-16-2013, 12:21 PM
Hey Mech, I'm sure you are all over this!!

http://www.examiner.com/article/ea-challenges-you-to-create-a-dog-tag-for-battlefield-4

Looks like you need to have a twitter account to upload the design. Currently I don't have a twitter account. If I have time, I'll submit a design and also post it here. Thanks for the info Lob!

mechatool
07-16-2013, 02:31 PM
Hey Mech, I'm sure you are all over this!!

http://www.examiner.com/article/ea-challenges-you-to-create-a-dog-tag-for-battlefield-4

Here is my dog tag design. It was inspired by Ullrsdog dog last night when he said Like a Boss! Now i need to figure out how to start a twitter account.


http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k620/mechatool/Like_A_Boss_v1.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/mechatool/media/Like_A_Boss_v1.jpg.html)

Ullrsdog
07-16-2013, 03:25 PM
Nice Mech!!! and where the hell did you find a pic of me online???

mechatool
07-16-2013, 03:43 PM
Nice Mech!!! and where the hell did you find a pic of me online???

I did a google search for BF3 Bad A** Bosses....and there it was..A pic of Ullrsdog! The cigar smoke is a nuke plume.

Ullrsdog
07-16-2013, 04:25 PM
L1L1L1 I love it...I noticed the nuke plume I thought that was AWESOME!!! I haven't shaved my head that close in a long long time...maybe it's time to get back to my roots (pun intended)

lore77
07-16-2013, 11:05 PM
Nice Tag Mech! I don't have the software or the creativity/ talent to try to make one but, I had an idea for a tag. Something along the lines of a tag showing a grave stone with the word Hero on the gravestone.

TonkaToys
07-17-2013, 08:19 AM
Looks like you need to have a twitter account to upload the design. Currently I don't have a twitter account. If I have time, I'll submit a design and also post it here. Thanks for the info Lob!

Mech, this article says (http://blogs.battlefield.com/2013/07/design-your-dream-dog-tag-it-might-end-up-in-bf4/)


Upload it to the Battlefield Facebook channel and tag the image ”MyBF4Tag”.

mechatool
07-17-2013, 09:23 AM
Mech, this article says (http://blogs.battlefield.com/2013/07/design-your-dream-dog-tag-it-might-end-up-in-bf4/)
I am still trying to figure this twitter thing out. I'm not even sure it's a official dice channel. If I need to upload it to a Facebook page, I'm not going to do it (I don't care for Facebook).

Ullrsdog
07-17-2013, 03:52 PM
I am still trying to figure this twitter thing out. I'm not even sure it's a official dice channel. If I need to upload it to a Facebook page, I'm not going to do it (I care for Facebook).

Then I'm stealing it...taking all the credit...and posting it tonight! well I doubt it would happen tonight but it sounded good.

LandShark
07-17-2013, 04:02 PM
That's sweet Mech!

Spike Forehand
07-17-2013, 09:10 PM
Here is my dog tag design. It was inspired by Ullrsdog dog last night when he said Like a Boss! Now i need to figure out how to start a twitter account.


http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k620/mechatool/Like_A_Boss_v1.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/mechatool/media/Like_A_Boss_v1.jpg.html)

Nice job Mech. That's gotta be a winner right there. You need to submit it.

Now we gotta figure out what you need to do to get that tag. Something like C4ing a prone camping wookie.

Madlob75
07-25-2013, 09:50 AM
The new Battlelog looks awesome!! I may have to get an iPad just for the game.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-BMoNB5Qk4

Ullrsdog
07-25-2013, 12:44 PM
nice post a video and 2 hours later it's gone!

Madlob75
07-25-2013, 12:46 PM
nice post a video and 2 hours later it's gone!

Must have taken it down.....it should be "officially" available today.

Ullrsdog
07-25-2013, 03:20 PM
Must have taken it down.....it should be "officially" available today.

It is...and yes time for the iPad! I think it's great that you could look up a server, change kits, and that sort of thing. Now they portray it as between deaths...well that's sort of silly considering you can change kits when you die anyway, but to be able to finish watching a show and find all you fools and be able to jump right into your game as I turn on the system seems cool.

Oh and my first challenge is who gets the pistol medal first!

SouthtownSlayer
07-25-2013, 04:34 PM
Screw the iPad! The video is up on the BF4 website.

Edit: Who talked his wife into movie back to Albuquerque and leave the horrible East Coast??? THIS GUY!!!!

No more giving me shit about logging off early Ullrs, we will now be in the same freaking time zone!


"During E3 this year, DICE VP and GM Karl Magnus Troedsson told us (http://mp1st.com/2013/06/15/battlefield-4-carrying-stats-and-unlocks-from-current-to-next-gen-consoles-is-being-discussed-at-dice/) that the ability to carry stats and unlocks between current- and next-gen version of Battlefield 4 was “being discussed.”
As discovered by VideoGamer (http://www.videogamer.com/xboxone/battlefield_4/news/battlefield_4_will_not_support_cross-gen_saves.html) earlier today, it appears that it might not be the case, after all. Player progress will be restricted to each respective version of the game, meaning that rank, stats, and unlocks acquired through play time on the PlayStation 3, for example, will not continue into your play time on the PlayStation 4.
“Each platform is treated like a separate career, similar to how it works in Battlefield 3,” wrote the official Battlefield 3 Twitter (https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/360304636789407745) recently.
Needless to say, this also applies to the relationship between current versions of Battlefield 3 and any version of Battlefield 4.
While the news may come as a disappointment to many, we expect a more than tolerable wait between Battelfield 4′s release on the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, or PC and Battlefield 4′s release on the Xbox One or PlayStation 4.
Despite this, EA did announce earlier this week that gamers would be able to transfer their Ultimate Team progress between current- and next-gen versions of FIFA 14. It’s too bad the same technology didn’t make it into Battlefield 4.
Are you disappointed in the news, or are you sticking to only one version of Battlefield 4 anyways?"


It is...and yes time for the iPad! I think it's great that you could look up a server, change kits, and that sort of thing. Now they portray it as between deaths...well that's sort of silly considering you can change kits when you die anyway, but to be able to finish watching a show and find all you fools and be able to jump right into your game as I turn on the system seems cool.

Oh and my first challenge is who gets the pistol medal first!

EPIC50CAL
07-25-2013, 07:22 PM
It is...and yes time for the iPad! I think it's great that you could look up a server, change kits, and that sort of thing. Now they portray it as between deaths...well that's sort of silly considering you can change kits when you die anyway, but to be able to finish watching a show and find all you fools and be able to jump right into your game as I turn on the system seems cool.

Oh and my first challenge is who gets the pistol medal first!

Didn't we try this already with s-tac Dog. I'll take that challenge.

Major Stains
07-26-2013, 12:55 AM
Here is my dog tag design. It was inspired by Ullrsdog dog last night when he said Like a Boss! Now i need to figure out how to start a twitter account.


http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k620/mechatool/Like_A_Boss_v1.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/mechatool/media/Like_A_Boss_v1.jpg.html)

I hope you are making a comfortable living from your skills Mecha.
Fantastic work on your sig and dog tags, always so fresh.

mechatool
07-29-2013, 10:01 AM
I hope you are making a comfortable living from your skills Mecha.
Fantastic work on your sig and dog tags, always so fresh.

Thanks Stains. I can say, I make a comfortable living doing what I love to do. I still haven't posted the dog tags to twitter.

Gink
07-29-2013, 12:45 PM
Thanks Stains. I can say, I make a comfortable living doing what I love to do. I still haven't posted the dog tags to twitter.

I keep seeing them post peoples' tags. So far I haven't seen one that looks as badass as yours. You need to submit it!

mechatool
07-29-2013, 01:21 PM
I keep seeing them post peoples' tags. So far I haven't seen one that looks as badass as yours. You need to submit it!

I made a twitter account but I need to do some testing to see how to link a file. I didn't want to look like a noob (which I am when it comes to twitter) and make a post with a link doesn't work. Does anybody know if I should use a direct link, Image code, HML code to use for a twitter image?

Ullrsdog
07-29-2013, 02:04 PM
Does the site tel you what to do? that's where I'd start, and if it says image head to the google machine and quickly shearch posting an image on tweety-bird

mechatool
07-29-2013, 03:02 PM
Does the site tel you what to do? that's where I'd start, and if it says image head to the google machine and quickly shearch posting an image on tweety-bird

Alright, I figured out how to put the image in twitter and posted LIKE A BOSS tags. Let me know if you see them on the BF4 twitter feed?

Madlob75
07-29-2013, 03:38 PM
Alright, I figured out how to put the image in twitter and posted LIKE A BOSS tags. Let me know if you see them on the BF4 twitter feed?
Whats your twitter name?

mechatool
07-29-2013, 03:45 PM
Whats your twitter name?
GabeBundick

Ullrsdog
07-29-2013, 03:45 PM
Alright, I figured out how to put the image in twitter and posted LIKE A BOSS tags. Let me know if you see them on the BF4 twitter feed?

WOOOOOOT!!!! I knew you could do it Mech!!! now for the folks at EA to determine who takes second place!

TonkaToys
08-07-2013, 08:31 AM
Battlefield 4's second-screen features exclusive to Xbox One, PS4, and PC


The second-screen features in Battlefield 4, which allows players to tinker with maps and loadouts via mobile or tablet while in-game, won't be available in the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game, DICE has confirmed.

Gamespot Article... (http://uk.gamespot.com/news/battlefield-4s-second-screen-features-exclusive-to-xbox-one-ps4-and-pc-6412565?tag=nl.e607&s_cid=e607&ttag=e607)

Ullrsdog
08-07-2013, 10:25 AM
take a look at this if you want to read some leaked info...

http://pastebin.com/MX9mBuzJ

here's a highlight if you don't want to read through the list.

I noticed was the m82a3 which is the 50 cal from BF3 single player. Max damage 110!!!! to 50 meters
There are a few guns listed many are ones we are familiar with. m249, ump, sv98, 870...and some we saw at E3 like AKC5 and ultimax
seem to confirm the air-burst granade, flash bang, smoke granade, and incindiary granade
added at least some new rounds to the shotty dbd09 / dbd09 Flechette / 50 cal. (flechette was listed seperate not sure what dbd09 would be)
looks like there is a flash bang for the underslung granade
the optics listed include a 20x and a 40x scope (in bf3 the 20x was dev only so I wonder if bf4 the 40x will be dev only)
perks look very similar sprint, anti explosive, explosive and the like but added heal boost!
I did see there is an auto pilot upgrade for the helis???? not sure what that is
Looks like there is a TV missle for the Jets
there are some airburt rounds for vehicles and some countermeasures for vehicles to defend against rockets
12 camo's for cloth listed
spotting looks to stay at 7 seconds like bf3
AC130 is in as is the Tomahawk (?? Heli ??)
Bradley is also listed...tracked US IFV

At first the code was a bit wierd but
aav- is Anti Air Vehicle
atkheli - is attack heli
MBT -is main battle tank (we know that one)
there is an atk jet and just jet
IFV - we know
Scout - is scout heli
FAC - ?? I assume this is the attack boats

Seem to have both lock on and tracking AA and AT weapons for engies in addition to the free fire like RPG's

Game modes listed Conquest / domination / elimination / obliteration / playground / rush / sdm / tdm

Retro
08-16-2013, 12:17 PM
Some more BF4 stuff.


DICE has revealed Battlefield 4 (http://www.ign.com/games/battlefield-4/pc-122223)'s multiplayer kits, including the Assault, Recon, Engineer and Support classes.
A new blog post (http://blogs.battlefield.com/2013/08/road-to-bf4-field-upgrades/) by core gameplay designer Alan Kertz offers insight into what each class will offer, as well as explains that they'll come in Chinese, Russian and American variants.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/08/BF4_Multiplayer-610x343.jpg

While Kertz explained that the team started by iterating on the Battlefield 3 classes, the end result is vastly different from what's come before. For example, "This time around the Engineer has a lot more variation in anti-vehicle weapons. We’ve also revamped the way we do vehicle disables and guided weapon systems to give the Engineer a broader set of tactics at his disposal.

"This includes everything from high damage weapons that may be more challenging to use (like RPG-7V2) to fire-and-forget smart weapons with low damage (like the MBT LAW), and the fan favorite Wire Guided Engineer Missile (the FGM-172 SRAW) that you might recognize from Battlefield 2."
The support loadout, meanwhile, will have more offensive options than previously and will retain C4 and Claymores from Battlefield 3. He'll also be given an XM25 for indirect suppressive fire, a remote mortar for distance attacks and the ability to use both carbines and DMRs.
In terms of Recon, Kertz writes it's, "gotten a much needed boost to mobility, as well as the return of the Spec Ops play style from Battlefield 2. Pack a carbine, C4 (or Claymores), and Motion Sensors and you’re good to go behind enemy lines. Fans of more traditional sniping roles will enjoy our revamped sniping mechanics with rebalanced Sniper Rifles, the ability to zero your sights (set an aiming distance), and additional optics and accessories. Finally, the Recon players can still utilize the MAV, T-UGS, and Radio Beacon to help out their team."
Finally, Assault remains the main run-and-gun spec while also acting as a medic. You'll have med kits and defibrillators, but also a First Aid Kit and a 40mm Flash Bang

IGN (http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/08/16/battlefield-4-multiplayer-classes-detailed)

ustolemygmrtag
08-18-2013, 11:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJybIPYs4DY

SouthtownSlayer
08-20-2013, 11:32 AM
PARACEL STORM Multi-Player!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3_xaIv7Wo1A

The ending has a little snip-it of China Rising!

Gink
08-20-2013, 11:47 AM
PARACEL STORM Multi-Player!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3_xaIv7Wo1A

The ending has a little snip-it of China Rising!

Mmmmm, tasty destruction :boom::boom:

Badgerute
08-20-2013, 01:16 PM
This looks pretty. The other game that looked real good is Titanfall. That may be enough for me to pick up the xbox as well.

Spike Forehand
08-20-2013, 01:48 PM
Sony just said if you buy on PS3 you can download the digital edition on PS4 at a "significantly reduced price."

That does it for me. Gonna put in a PS3 order.

SouthtownSlayer
08-20-2013, 01:58 PM
This looks pretty. The other game that looked real good is Titanfall. That may be enough for me to pick up the xbox as well.

I'm looking at doing the same thing but I probably won't get the XBone until I move back to Albuquerque which will probably be awhile since my biggest concern will be my freaking mortgage and getting settled in!

sam007
08-20-2013, 11:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEIWYgA2lbQ

Oh god, did I just see the Antenna from Caspian fall as part of the Second Assault map pack?

Beano, 500% here we come! (Hey, its gonna be "different" with 64 players...I swear it!)

Badgerute
08-21-2013, 07:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEIWYgA2lbQ

Oh god, did I just see the Antenna from Caspian fall as part of the Second Assault map pack?

Beano, 500% here we come! (Hey, its gonna be "different" with 64 players...I swear it!)

Yes, you can make out Caspian, metro, firestorm, and I think Oman.

Badgerute
08-21-2013, 07:30 AM
Yes, you can make out Caspian, metro, firestorm, and I think Oman.

What I am really excited about is some new art work. BF4 ART!

sam007
08-21-2013, 07:48 AM
Yes, you can make out Caspian, metro, firestorm, and I think Oman.

Metro...wonderful! You guys will experience what a 64 player conquest game is gonna be like. 320, grenade, RPG spam those stairs. LOL Then again, there's enough of us to make a coordinated push if needed. :)

Oh god and Oman. :'( Damn snipers that love to drop into those unreachable levels.

sam007
08-22-2013, 10:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvAA0eDWVs

Dog already posted some XFactor videos on the Platoon page.

Its gonna be interesting how everyone will setup their load out with all these variables now. :)

Oh god, how bad will Team chat be with 64 players now?

Cool, their is a huge pop up when you're last man in squad.

Gink
08-22-2013, 02:03 PM
Cool info, can't wait to see the new gadgets in action.
I noticed the last man popup too, that's handy considering how much effect it'll have.
The action in the video was confusing to me, one moment he was shooting blueberries, the next oranges, and both sides would show a revive symbol over them. Is that just a beta/development thing or are colors team specific now? Can we revive op4? That'd open up some new trolling opportunities.

Toxic Avenger72
08-22-2013, 05:41 PM
Weapons list. Wait, different melee weapons choices? :thumb:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jimpiusm2H8

Gink
08-22-2013, 11:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3W4FbsAqIY

Levolution Features!

Spike Forehand
08-23-2013, 10:56 AM
Watching some of the livestream stuff on the battlefield site. Really freakin awesome.

While it looks a whole lot like BF3 in the mechanics and soldier/gun graphics, it has a ton of other improvements + the 64 player games. Really, really love the destructability. The Paracel stuff looks like a perfect mix of close-up action on the islands along with tons of vehicles in the air and water.

I generally try not to look like too much of a douche by using the word epic, but I can't think of a better one to describe what I'm seeing.

EPIC50CAL
08-23-2013, 02:51 PM
EPIC is ''the'' perfect word. lol

sam007
08-24-2013, 08:40 PM
According to my Origin library, I'll have BF4 beta access. :)

sam007
08-25-2013, 02:49 PM
I'm watching a re-stream of BF4 off Twitch right now and the hit detection will be the same architecture as BF3 with improvements they said.

TonkaToys
08-30-2013, 10:55 AM
The action in the video was confusing to me, one moment he was shooting blueberries, the next oranges, and both sides would show a revive symbol over them. Is that just a beta/development thing or are colors team specific now? Can we revive op4? That'd open up some new trolling opportunities.

Isn't that the viewing / freecam mode? In that it shows all US troops in blue and all Chinese in orange as you aren't technically on either side.

TonkaToys
09-02-2013, 07:44 AM
Commander Mode



We wanted squad leaders to be 90% on the battlefield and just occasionally focused on ordering and communication with the commander, while the commander was intended to work the other way around – 90% focused on ordering and communication, and 10% focused on the battlefield.

In Battlefield 4, one of Lead Multiplayer Designer Thomas Andersson’s main goals was to create more Commander vs. Commander gameplay (similar to what can be seen in RTS games)...

There is no possibility of going between 1st person and Commander Mode like in BF2. We wanted to ensure the Commander is dedicated to supporting the whole team, not just themselves. We all remembered the BF2 “Commander supporting himself while in a tank ignoring his team” worst case scenario, and that’s something we wanted to avoid happening again.

...you’ll also be able to designate High Value Targets, useful for pointing out especially dangerous enemies on the battlefield. An enemy on a kill streak of six or more will appear on the Commander’s screen as a selectable unit. This player’s location can be relayed to the entire team for a period of time (45 seconds at the moment). The Commander can add this aspect to a game where most players will shift focus for a while and hunt/protect this HVT player, as both teams are alerted about this Commander “promotion” when it happens. The attackers will receive additional bonuses when taking out said target, while the target will receive bonuses when performing kills while being HVT – thus both parties have something to gain from this. GTA’s classic “wanted stars” system is what we used as an inspiration for this...


Main Assets Loop

These assets can be obtained by your team by owning the objectives and are gone once the objectives are lost/destroyed. ...
-The Cruise Missile ...
-Two types of Map Scans – Vehicle and Infantry Scan, used for long-term highlighting of enemy units on the map for your team.
-Finally, the AC-130 Gunship ...

Squad Loop

...all the Commander scoring events are fed into the Squad Assets bar... Each asset costs 1, 2, 3 or 4 chunks of the bar. On a maxed bar, the Commander can use the most expensive asset or four of the least expensive asset...

-Squad Promotion – boost the squad members’ individual field upgrade bars towards the next unlock.
-Vehicle Drop – deploy a Quad Bike or a light Boat (depending on terrain) via parachute.
-Rapid Deploy – cut the squad’s spawn time in half for a fixed period of time.
-Supply Drop: deploy a large crate that will heal, resupply and repair friendly units. In addition, friendly units will be able to change kits on the field which we think is an interesting tactical addition to the game.



link to original article

HardlyCapable13
09-05-2013, 05:34 PM
Oh. Shit. Yeah.

Soooooo wished for this in BF3.


Battlefield 4 will include a "test range" that will allow players to try out vehicles like helicopters before getting into the game proper.


Rest of the story here -----> http://www.gamespot.com/news/battlefield-4-will-have-vehicle-testing-range-6414055

Spike Forehand
09-06-2013, 12:09 PM
Oh. Shit. Yeah.

Soooooo wished for this in BF3.



Rest of the story here -----> http://www.gamespot.com/news/battlefield-4-will-have-vehicle-testing-range-6414055

If they keep taking away my excuses for sucking I may not be able to get this game.

Black_Out_424
09-07-2013, 09:41 AM
Oh. Shit. Yeah.

Soooooo wished for this in BF3.



Rest of the story here -----> http://www.gamespot.com/news/battlefield-4-will-have-vehicle-testing-range-6414055

Totally going to have to get this game now!!! Loved using all the equipment just sucked trying to get good at it during a game.

TonkaToys
09-10-2013, 09:41 AM
Article on BF4 Weapons Customisations (http://blogs.battlefield.com/2013/09/road-to-bf4-weapon-customization/)



...To give you a brief example of the vast amount of weapon variety you’ll get in Battlefield 4, let’s multiply the number of customization options you have on a single assault rifle. With everything from optics, other accessories and camos, you’ll end up with more than 240,000 variations – and that’s for one single weapon in your arsenal!

...we’ve greatly enhanced the feedback to players on exactly how each accessory affects the weapon’s in-game performance. Browsing through the accessories, you’ll notice a handy visual guide on the right part of your screen. Here, weapon stats such as damage, accuracy, hip fire accuracy, range, and stability are displayed in easy to read bars – so you can immediately gauge what effect equipping a certain accessory has...

...we’re also introducing something new: adaptive camouflages. With one of these equipped, the paint adapts to the environment in the level you’re playing...

...After you’ve figured out if your prey is 200, 500 or maybe even 1,000 meters away, you can calibrate your scope to compensate for the bullet drop that comes with long range shots....

...there’s something new to keep an eye out for in Battlefield 4: Battle Pickups. These powerful weapons will be placed on specific parts of all the maps in most game modes, and knowledge of these can swing the battle in your favor...

...Finally, this time around you can also customize your secondary weapon...

TonkaToys
09-11-2013, 08:31 AM
BF PC Specs: DICE recommends an Intel Quad-Core processor, 8GB of RAM, and a Nvidia GTX 660.

Article (http://uk.gamespot.com/news/battlefield-4-minimum-and-recommended-specs-revealed-6414256?tag=nl.e607&s_cid=e607&ttag=e607)

RC-1136
09-11-2013, 08:47 AM
I played a little this morning and there was a message saying that you can upgrade to the PS4 version of BF4 for under $10.

TonkaToys
09-11-2013, 11:02 AM
What did you play; the BF4 demo or BF3?

sam007
09-12-2013, 03:24 PM
BF PC Specs: DICE recommends an Intel Quad-Core processor, 8GB of RAM, and a Nvidia GTX 660.

Article (http://uk.gamespot.com/news/battlefield-4-minimum-and-recommended-specs-revealed-6414256?tag=nl.e607&s_cid=e607&ttag=e607)


But are 570's in SLI ok?

8GB is a lot of ram!

The rig I have should be just fine to run BF4, I just hope I find some time to play the beta.

sam007
09-12-2013, 03:25 PM
If they keep taking away my excuses for sucking I may not be able to get this game.

You and SureMoe will be fighting to be in the commander's chair, lol

JK.

HardlyCapable13
09-14-2013, 03:46 PM
BF4 vehicles. http://blogs.battlefield.com/2013/09/road-to-bf4-vehicle-gameplay/?utm_campaign=bf-social-us-socom-fb-road-to-bf4-vehicle-091313&utm_source=fb&utm_medium=social&sourceid=bf-social-us-socom-fb-road-to-bf4-vehicle-091313

sam007
09-16-2013, 07:37 AM
What's this I hear of a $10 upgrade fee from old gen console to next gen?

SouthtownSlayer
09-16-2013, 07:46 AM
What's this I hear of a $10 upgrade fee from old gen console to next gen?

Upgrade info (http://www.teammp.net/VB_TeamMP/showthread.php?9784-BF4-PS3-PS4-Upgrade-Offers)

Madlob75
09-16-2013, 11:41 AM
What's this I hear of a $10 upgrade fee from old gen console to next gen?

There is a $10 upgrade fee from PS3/Xbox360 ----> PS4/XBONE for BF4 You've been on PC too long....its rotting your brain!

Gink
09-17-2013, 10:26 AM
Sounds like you can transfer your progress from current gen to next gen too. Just got the "upgrade" email this morning. It doesn't give much detail about the terms of upgrading, just "as low as $9.99*", but being able to take your ranks and unlocks with you was a surprise to me.

sam007
09-17-2013, 03:33 PM
There is a $10 upgrade fee from PS3/Xbox360 ----> PS4/XBONE for BF4 You've been on PC too long....its rotting your brain!

I've been demoted to daddy daycare duties. lol

Wife went back to work this monday and we're scrambling to move our kid out of day care and into a Montessori School, it costs about the same, just a little more.

I've been in this 20 week program and if that counts as being on the PC, then yes, those course with their damn 200 question finals exams IS rotting my brain. lol

Badgerute
09-23-2013, 04:39 PM
Been thinking about getting the new Microsoft Surface Pro 2. Can someone tell me if it will run, and how well it will run, battlefield 4?


Surace Pro 2

Processor 1.6GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5-4200U "Haswell" with HD 4400 Graphics
Screen 10.6" 1920x1080 (207ppi)
RAM 4GB / 8GB
Storage 64GB / 128GB / 256GB / 512GB

Gink
09-23-2013, 04:56 PM
Been thinking about getting the new Microsoft Surface Pro 2. Can someone tell me if it will run, and how well it will run, battlefield 4?


Surace Pro 2

Processor 1.6GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5-4200U "Haswell" with HD 4400 Graphics
Screen 10.6" 1920x1080 (207ppi)
RAM 4GB / 8GB
Storage 64GB / 128GB / 256GB / 512GB

Sounds like it meets the minimum specs, but I'd say just barely 1.6GHz dual-core isn't a lot of power, but the biggest issue would probably be the Intel HD 4400 Graphics, unless they've really improved, you pretty much always want a discrete nvidia or amd graphics card for games like battlefield. I've got a quad-core 2.8GHz i7 with a 2GB Nvidia 630M card and don't expect I'd be able to run BF4 at a framerate that wouldn't cause endless frustration. Might search around though and see if anyone has run BF3 on Intel 4000 or 4400 for comparison.

Madlob75
09-23-2013, 07:05 PM
Been thinking about getting the new Microsoft Surface Pro 2. Can someone tell me if it will run, and how well it will run, battlefield 4?


Surace Pro 2

Processor 1.6GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5-4200U "Haswell" with HD 4400 Graphics
Screen 10.6" 1920x1080 (207ppi)
RAM 4GB / 8GB
Storage 64GB / 128GB / 256GB / 512GB

Noooo!!! Don't go over to the dark side!

Badgerute
09-24-2013, 04:49 PM
Noooo!!! Don't go over to the dark side!

I doubt I will. More wishful thinking about getting a new toy more than anything. Besides, the thought of learning how to play on a keyboard isn't appealing to me at all.

sam007
09-25-2013, 08:07 AM
Been thinking about getting the new Microsoft Surface Pro 2. Can someone tell me if it will run, and how well it will run, battlefield 4?


Surace Pro 2

Processor 1.6GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5-4200U "Haswell" with HD 4400 Graphics
Screen 10.6" 1920x1080 (207ppi)
RAM 4GB / 8GB
Storage 64GB / 128GB / 256GB / 512GB

On board graphics, and only 2 cores, don't even bother.

No idea how much that is, but if you really wanted to get a decent PC, you can piece together some parts and go with AMD components.

sam007
09-25-2013, 08:07 AM
I doubt I will. More wishful thinking about getting a new toy more than anything. Besides, the thought of learning how to play on a keyboard isn't appealing to me at all.

its liking learning any new skill, you're gonna suck ass at first, it just takes persistence and practice. :)

Gink
09-25-2013, 07:24 PM
No idea how much that is, but if you really wanted to get a decent PC, you can piece together some parts and go with AMD components.

True, I did a budget upgrade on an office machine for a client recently, best deal on a decent CPU ended up being an unlocked AMD quad core. Would probably be a decent gaming machine, all ready to be overclocked. Too bad it's doomed to a life of quickbooks and MS Office.

Madlob75
09-26-2013, 07:14 AM
Leaked info on maps.

http://www.videogamer.com/xboxone/battlefield_4/news/names_and_images_of_all_10_battlefield_4_maps_leak _online.html

Major Stains
10-06-2013, 02:19 PM
For any Brits getting Battlefield 4, you may want to check out this (http://www.game.co.uk/en/battlefield-4-with-premium-expansion-pack-216112?pageSize=20&categoryIdentifier=577110) deal on Game.

I cancelled my Amazon preorder (although that was on an early holding price of £42) to get this one with the extra bits and pieces.


Preorder Battlefield 4 on Xbox One, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, or PC and you will receive a set of GAME Exclusive Dog Tags, as well as bonus in-game content for both Battlefield 4 AND
Battlefield 3!

Dog Tags
These full-size replica dog tags will be delivered in collectable packaging and are a must for every Battlefield fan.

Bonus content for Battlefield 4 – Gold Battlepack
Battlepacks contain a combination of new weapon accessories, dog tags, knives, XP boosts and character customisation items. The packs are designed to add an all-new layer of multiplayer persistence with an exciting element of chance, and are awarded during gameplay.

Bonus Content for Battlefield 3 – Air Vehicles Shortcut Kit
This bundle immediately unlocks all 38 upgrades for the attack helicopters, scout helicopters, and jets in Battlefield 3. These items are normally unlocked by earning experience while using these vehicles in the game.

PREORDER BATTLEFIELD 4 TODAY!



Which leads to the next question. Who wants a BF3 bonus content key?

TonkaToys
10-07-2013, 10:37 AM
Cheers Stains, but I might be able to trump you on that deal...

£5.97 for BF4 if you trade 2 games in! (http://www.gamestop.co.uk/BF4Trade)

And there are a bunch of WII, WII U, 3DS, DS, Xbox and PS3 games that are valid.

I might well nick one of the boys' WII games for this offer.

TonkaToys
10-11-2013, 04:44 AM
I've done it! I've ordered from GameStop... now to find some trade-ins.

TonkaToys
11-11-2013, 11:04 AM
Yes! Just got my £34 refund - so BF4 cost me £5.99 and a couple of old games.